Comments on telegraph article on Facebook re prospect of children being banned from certain public places

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I hadn't realised till I read the comments section of this article on Facebook (No kids allowed: Is Britain becoming an anti-child society?)..but it turns out everyone wants children banned from everywhere! I feel really sad about it.

Could we ban grown men with loud laughs first? Very few children manage to reach anything like the volume of a group of 30+'s with a high opinion of their own witticisms.

I would like to ban loud eaters and people who don't have exact change for the bus, please.

I'd like to ban slow walkers and people that stop at the top of escalators please

And women who bend over naked in the gym. Especially if they have a tampon in.

Anyone got a link?

I have no problem with slow walkers in general but I'd like to ban them from walking in groups & blocking the whole pavement.

AND people who walk slowly down the escalator. They're almost as annoying as the ones who stand on the left.

I'd like to ban scream sneezers.

www.google.co.uk/amp/www.telegraph.co.uk/women/family/no-kids-allowed-is-britain-becoming-an-anti-child-society/amp/

Yeah loads of people seem to hate kids - I only noticed when I had DS and some people will scowl and tut if we take him to a restaurant (he's 9 months old and never shouts or cries when out so he's not even disturbing people)

It is sad but then loads of other people are very nice and welcoming - these things just don't sell papers

how inaccurate, there is no general desire to ban all children from all places... one cafe owner has decided he would like an adult space, why not? It is not ageist, biased or discriminatory in any way to value different options for different sets of people, would you insist that adults must be allowed to use soft play?!

with an increasing number of adults not actually parenting their children it is hardly surprising that some people want a more adult space...

It's not kids in public places that bother me - it's the adults that they're with that let them run about in cafes/ watch peppa pig in restaurants with the sound up etc etc.

This has come about because so many parents allow children to be feral.

I've seen a child grab a pepper pot and start sprinkling it on his sibling's hair. Mum and dad - well neither of them are even looking. No wonder people don't want kids in there (notices have gone up asking for parents to supervise closely)! The restaurant had to pay for that pepper and Hoover up the pepper that went over the floor.

It's a shame as it is hard to entertain kids. But people allowing their kids to run riot are ruining it for all of us.

Sorry - unintentional scream-sneezer here.
Will try to improve.
I agree re slow people especially on escalators - only okay if you're really old.
I would love to ban smelly old men! Especially the daytime-drunk ones who try to talk to you or touch your baby 😱.

Mainly talking about the comments on the Facebook article. People are going crazy kid/baby-bashing! Some one had said that you shouldn't go out in public with a newborn WHATSOEVER for the first few months (good mothers will have stocked up on a few months worth of food apparently?) and I've just seen another that people who eat out with a baby are very selfish...
Little bit shocked by it all.

akkakk, the OP made it quite clear in her initial post that she was speaking of the Facebook comments, not the original story- what's inaccurate about that?

And I stand by my first statement that inconsiderate adults are usually far louder and more intrusive in restaurants, but for some reason people seem to find it acceptable to be unable to carry on a conversation because some grown man has never learn to moderate his voice. Tolerance of children is far lower in this country.

We moved to Spain with 3yo DD a year ago and the difference in how people treat kids is marked. Here, kids are welcome just about anywhere, any time of day or night. People don't make special efforts for them, they're just part of society. We can take DD to a restaurant at 9pm, a concert, whatever, no one bats an eyelid. And people are kind to her. Whereas we get funny looks in a cafe in the middle of the day in the U.K.!!

akkakk, the OP made it quite clear in her initial post that she was speaking of the Facebook comments, not the original story- what's inaccurate about that?

Simple - it is inaccurate to derive a generalisation from comments on one facebook post... there is absolutely no evidence that our culture wishes to exclude children - far from it we are one of the most child-tolerant societies out there...

may be possible that some sectors wish to exclude rudeness / bad or wild behaviour - but that seems totally reasonable...

may also be some who want to provide alternative spaces - again that is totally reasonable, much as there are times when the same person would prefer to drink water / tea / coffee / wine / etc. so there are times when adults are happy alongside children and adults and other times prefer an adult space...

were anyone to even try to pretend that you would get the same feeling / ambience by allowing families in then they would clearly be deluded! nothing wrong with children and nothing wrong with occasionally having space without them!

I agree re certain places being child free - fine, great, wonderful.

The comments section just is full of people saying that they should be banned from all coffee shops, restaurants, etc. Saw another person saying that children shouldn't be allowed out in public at all until they are potty trained. And the remarks in my previous comment shocked me somewhat! I always thought that when I got an evil look when I was out and about with baby (who behaves delightfully of course) that it was because they thought he didn't have enough warm clothes on, or too many warm clothes on or something like that, not because they think babies should be locked indoors.
We've all had experiences where we've seen are really naughty kids going crazy of course, but I see plenty of terribly behaved adults, fighting, puking and pissing in the street, even having sex in broad daylight!