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15 Nephew Arrested for Tagging and smoking weed - what can I say to make a difference?

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Paddlechick666 · 25/03/2007 10:05

Hi

Well my dd is only 17 months so teens aren't my strong point.

My nephew is an incredibly bright, polite, likeable lad. My brother has custody and he's lived with his dad since he was about 5 years old.

I don't necessarily subscribe to my bro's parenting style but he's done his best under difficult circumstances. He's always had a turbulent relationship with his son and they are both far too competetive with each other IMO.

Recently nephew has made friends with a new boy and has been spending a lot of time with him. He was caught with cigs at Xmas.

Friday night nephew told his dad he was staying with a friend round the corner. At 2am bro was called by police. Nephew had been "tagging" phone-boxes with this other boy.

Both boys were very contrite and the police didn't even give them a warning, just a reprimand. This on the grounds that they were very polite, didn't try to deny the evidence and were very remorseful.

Apparently just recently the other boy was chased home by other "taggers" who's work he'd gone over. A 3rd boy was beaten up recently for the same thing.

Having inspected their phones it appears they've also been experimenting with skunk!!!

Schoolwork isn't as good as it should be again the teachers aren't so hard on him because they really want to encourage him and help him acheive his potential.

My bro wants me to talk to him as he knows his kids have a good and friendly relationship with me. To be honest I think whatever I say will wash over nephew. He's learned from his father that he must always be right even when he's wrong! He always promises to mend his ways but he never puts the effort in.

I've tried to get bro to spend more "quality" time with him but to be fair he works a lot of hours and struggles to make ends meet.

The mother isn't really on the scene so her only influence is expensive gifts at Xmas and birthdays.

Honestly I think the boy will always land on his feet and this is probably teen shennanigans. But, if only he could see that getting his head down now would make the coming years so much easier and more pleasant for him.

He lives in a wealthy area of London, hangs out with some very priveliged kids most of whome are very well behaved. But he doesn't go to their private schools and he thinks these other kids are just the bees knees.

At Xmas he said he wouldn't get into trouble because his friends went to a 30k p/a private school. I said all the more reason why they wouldn't have any respect because Daddy would always buy them out of trouble!

Sorry it's long, am really quite worried about him and want to help.

Anybody got any advice?

TIA

ps: I should say, all this happened not a million miles from where that poor boy was stabbed to death last week.

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Paddlechick666 · 25/03/2007 13:04

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anyone.....

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zippitippitoes · 25/03/2007 13:09

the thought that sprang to mind when i read this is

more money than sense, typical lad who has not had to face reality yet

trying to be cool and emulate mates

spoilt

how to turn it around..something which gives him a wake up call..

greater parental control and less letting him think he can do what he likes and get away with it

dad needs to change his attitudes round

difficult if he fundamentally believes that son is ok anyway

tiredemma · 25/03/2007 13:21

Do a google search for 'skunk psychosis'- if thats not enough to put someone off smoking the shit then I dont know what is.

I seen so many teenage boys in the past few weeks with mental health problems brought about by smoking skunk, I dont mean 'slightly depressed' - im talking so far removed from reality and severe psychosis that they are inpatients on psychiatric wards.

cant think of any other advice for you really, althhough I echo what zippi has said, peer pressure and more money than sense.

zippitippitoes · 25/03/2007 13:23

also echo the nastiness of of mental health problems arising from drugs

and the evidence that short term psychosis and long term eg schizophrenia evidence is mounting

margoandjerry · 25/03/2007 13:32

difficult and I don't have a teenager so no experience but it always seems a shame when teenagers are so disconnected from their futures that they waste their lives away with this rubbish.

You don't say how old he is I don't think but where does he want his life to go? What are his aspirations? College? Get a job? Travel? An intelligent boy should have wider horizons than scribbling on things with a marker pen...

Is there a way to engage his intelligence and help him apply it to his own future?

Paddlechick666 · 25/03/2007 13:59

hi all

thanks for the responses. good idea on the mental health issues. there are some already in the family so he's aware of the devestation they can cause.

he's 15 by the way.

he does have his own money because he does a part time job but my bro doesn't have much so apart from the expensive birthday/xmas things he doesn't really get too much.

i think my bro does compensate for lack of time spent with him with monetry things and a fairly easy going attitude with friends etc.

tbh, i think they both think the kids he mixes with are from well to do families and so are a good think iyswim.

i've tried and tried to talk to my bro about his parenting. altho he's angry he's still in the "boys will be boys and i did worse" camp.

also he thinks as they've been caught now then it won't happen again or get any worse.

nephew is a bit flighty but he's keen on some sports and has aspirations for the future. but i think he thinks it's all going to fall into his lap without any effort.

i don't think the authorities attitude help in this respect. his teachers and now the police all say to him that they'll go easy because he's really a good lad with lots of potential.

peer pressure is part of this also.

i wish i could get my bro to listen to me more but again it's hard to get tough with him as i know the pressure he's under. he tends to rely on our parents to enforce discipline which IMO isn't right either.

have told him not to tell them about this latest incident.

will ring him again tonight and try to get him to agree to really crack down on him. confiscate his phone and try not to allow any opportunity for him to unsupervised - at least for a week or two.

will try to speak to nephew too and get him to see the danger he's put himself into.

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wurlywurlyCOVEREDinCHOCOLATE · 26/03/2007 17:59

paddlechick, I know this doesnt really help, but my nephew was the same age when he started experimenting with drugs. He was arrested the beginning of Feb for burglary in the family home. His mother never 'dealt' with his problem and left him to it.

Everyone assumes that its not addictive and that it doesnt lead to other drugs being used, which is so wrong.

My nephew got to the stage where he was a guniea pig for the local dealer who would try new drugs out on him. Tho his drug of choice was temazpan.

He is now living with my parents and has been clean for 6 weeks. He is due in court on 11th april for (possible) sentancing for the burglary charges but we are hoping it wont come to that.

I wish these kids could see them selves in 10 years time before they start dabbling in drugs. I have seen my nephew when he was as high as a kite and anlmost didnt recognise him, it was a really scary sight.

Without soundng harsh there is nothing that you can really say that will make a difference. Just a lot of love and support.

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