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Is sons teacher making my son be excluded?

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Cupcakes345 · 12/07/2017 16:10

My son is 6 (7 in August) and hes in Yr 2 and he has ADHD and is quite hyper and because he kept getting in trouble the headmaster has him in his room the past 3 days the heads being at another school (his schools a academy) so my son had to be in his class and now hes got excluded is it his teacher hes fine in heads room and he goes on playground when hes in there so its not his class mates

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noblegiraffe · 12/07/2017 16:14

So he can behave for the head but is choosing not to for the teacher?

228agreenend · 12/07/2017 16:14

Sorry, your post is a little confusing. If I understand it correctly, your son goes in the headmasters room when he is in trouble. However, head is away so he got returned to,the class. He has got into ,trouble again and is now excluded from whole school as head is not around for him to be in head's room?

Is that right?

Cupcakes345 · 12/07/2017 16:20

22 no because he was always disruptive he has to stay in heads room

noble I think its his teacher

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GraceGrape · 12/07/2017 16:22

There's a bit of a difference between behaving yourself in the head's office where you are the only pupil and behaving yourself in a class full of children where a lesson is going on.

noblegiraffe · 12/07/2017 16:23

Teachers can't exclude pupils, you need to find out the behaviour that caused your son to be excluded.

Cupcakes345 · 12/07/2017 16:25

He wasn't listening he was throwing rubbers and spitting

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CaptainBrickbeard · 12/07/2017 16:29

So how could it be the teacher's fault??

shinyshiner · 12/07/2017 16:29

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corlan · 12/07/2017 16:30

Your son has ADHD so he probably finds it hard to concentrate on a task for very long, he gets easily distracted and he probably acts on impulse without really thinking out the consequences of what he's doing.
There are so many distractions and opportunities to get in trouble in a classroom full of students compared to the headmaster's office. You can't blame the teacher for that.
There are schools for children with really severe ADHD where they are taught in very small groups and there are lots of staff to keep the students on task. If your son is not at one of those schools, he is going to have to learn to manage his ADHD in a class full of other students.

roundtable · 12/07/2017 16:33

I would move this from parenting into SN op.

You'll find posters with experience and advice.

Does sound like the school is struggling to meet your child's needs. You will need to establish if that is because the school/environment is lacking or if he's not suited to a mainstream education.

RebelRogue · 12/07/2017 16:43

It's not the teacher's fault.
There are a lot more distractions,reasons to show off,triggers and overwhelming situations in a classroom environment than 1 to 1 with the head in an office.

What adaptations have been made for him? What support does he gave?
Spending time in the HT's office is not a long term solution,so it needs to be determined whether the school could be doing more, or your son can't cope in a mainstream classroom environment.

Lowdoorinthewal1 · 12/07/2017 16:47

What behaviour triggered the exclusion?

BoneyBackJefferson · 12/07/2017 17:08

Are you sure that your son is in the correct educational setting?

(awaits flaming)

Lowdoorinthewal1 · 12/07/2017 17:11

It's very, very difficult to get a child into specialist education Boney. Unless the school have thoroughly exhausted their graduated response, it doesn't matter what the OP thinks about placement.

Totallyoverwhelmed42 · 12/07/2017 17:13

ADHD or no ADHD spitting is vile and he should be sanctioned for it. Don't let your son use ADHD as an excuse for all behaviour. Before I'm flamed my DD has ADHD and is in a specialist school she is very impulsive however I would still expect her to be sanctioned for spitting.

BoneyBackJefferson · 12/07/2017 17:15

Lowdoorinthewal1

I am aware of how difficult it is to get into specialist education. I am also aware that sometimes the only way to do so is for the school to exclude pupils so that the LEA has to place them somewhere more suitable.

However if the OP is completely set on this being the teachers fault then there will be little or no chance of the child getting the provision that they need.

Lowdoorinthewal1 · 12/07/2017 17:39

OP, what does you DS know about his own ADHD?

Does he understand that although it might make it more difficult for him to control his impulses than other children, it doesn't make it impossible? Has he been told what socially acceptable actions he can take when he is cross/ unable to focus (like go for a run to the end of the playground and back)?

This is not the teacher's fault. Your DS may need better management, however, part of that should definitely involve teaching him some self-awareness and giving him some responsibility for control of his own actions. He has to learn to live successfully with ADHD, don't let him use it as an excuse.

Eolian · 12/07/2017 17:49

How is this the teacher's fault? Of course it's easier to get your son to behave well in an office with the Head and no other children or distractions! It's hardly the teacher's fault that he won't behave as well in a classroom where the teacher has a whole class to manage!

TheFallenMadonna · 13/07/2017 14:14

What strategies are in place to help your son? I am a teacher, and I work with challenging students, and sometimes it really is my fault when something kicks off, in that it wouldn't if I had behaved differently, and I should have known better, being the professional in the situation. Sometimes it isn't my fault, because the trigger was out of my control. What is the plan for supporting your son? And how much help does the teacher get to implement it?

Cupcakes345 · 13/07/2017 15:54

He use to be on half day now he just is in heads office and the school were going to make him run up and down the play ground when angry and today he seemed to have a good day but he was in class without the head but only problem I had was him refusing to go and wanted to take his ipad

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JennyOnAPlate · 13/07/2017 15:59

No teacher would exclude a child from class for no reason op.

Have you had a meeting with school? Spoken to the senco?

Cupcakes345 · 13/07/2017 16:04

Had meeting with Senco this afternoon

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TheFallenMadonna · 13/07/2017 19:51

What happened in the meeting?

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