Suitable punishments for nearly 5 year ol

[Beccarollover]

Hi

Wonder if you can help...

I have made leaps and bounds with disciplining DD in the last year or so (you may remember the F*ing Fours thread).

Sometimes though, I struggle with what to take away/threaten her with....

For example at bedtime she quite often plays for time and keeps shouting me back in her room/makes up ailments etc and I find myself saying "Stop this or I'll...................." and I dont know what to say!! Ive learnt from experience not to say anything then not back it up so Im always careful not to just come out with something but would appreciate pointers on things that help motivate kids at times like this.

Sometimes I have said "Stop it or there will be no television tomorrow" and she will say "I dont care" then what???? Obviously I follow through the threat but it doesnt help me at that bedtime struggle.

Am I making sense?

List of your useful/effective punishments please

hi Roisin

yes he will be oldest, starts school on 2nd Sept, will be 5 on 1st Sept.

He has been attending pre-school nursery this year, and they don't seem to have had a particular problem with him.
But my childminder does, he lost it twice yesterday, altho' she got it calmed down by ignoring. I know here he gets frustrated sometimes and thats when it goes (e.g. can't get his train track to join up, doesn't want help, wants to do it himself). I also suspect that childminders daughter (nearly 6, looks like an angel) deliberately winds him up.

cm seems a bit at a loss, but this is her first year childminding, and this is her first boy!
She's a qualified nneb, but Nannied up to this year and always girls. I've lent her my copy of "Raising Boys" to try and get her to understand him a bit better.

1 September - crikey, poor lad! I hope he settles really well at school, I'm sure he will find the structure suits him much better, especially as he's been fine at pre-school.

Will he still got to cm after school? Both my two have had a tendency to flip out a bit after school, so if he is going to cm you may need to think through a few strategies with her to meet his needs after an exhausting day at school.

I know exactly what you mean about "wind-up" kids ... ds2 can be a bit like this sometimes, and ds1 has a 'friend' who knows exactly what buttons to press to wind other children up, but looks like a little cherub.

PS Don't like Steve Biddulph I'm afraid - I did agree with some bits from the book, but generally I'm not on his wavelength. Though I do completely agree that girls and boys are different.

I know what you mean about Steve Biddulph, I was just trying to persuade the cm that boys do need different techniques.

I haven't decided what to do yet re cm and school. the first 2 and a half weeks he only does mornings at school anyway, and i was planning that by the second Wed, when he's settled in he would go to the until teatime. I,m trying to get som sort of work pattern established