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HELP! NO POO BUT IT HURTS!!!!!!!!!1

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MollyMooMin · 16/03/2007 13:53

My DD has been potty trained for a week without a single accident! We've been so shocked at how well she took to it. The only problem has only just started, where she's dying to do a poo, she's holding her tummy, crying asking for a nappy to poo in! I can actually see her poo coming out, she just won't sit down & do it! She's done them before with no problem, they're soft and easy (sorry if tmi), drinks loads of juice, eats fruit.. B ut it's not constipation that's the problem, so what do we do? She's in agony! Please help?

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raspberryberet · 16/03/2007 13:54

Let her have a nappy! Isn't it better than her being in pain?

Have just written on another thread that being dry doesn't automatically mean she's ready to poo in the toilet too. Go easy on her and let her have a nappy for a poo until she's happy to use the toilet.

tkband3 · 16/03/2007 14:19

It's very common for children to want to continue with nappies for poos long after they are dry. My DD1 was completely dry for nearly a year before she gave up her nappies for pooing. One suggestion I had when I posted on here about the problem was to put the nappy in the potty and see if she would then sit on the potty to go in the nappy (IYSWIM). But the best thing really is just to let her have a nappy (as raspberryberet says) until she is ready.

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MollyMooMin · 16/03/2007 15:44

Thanks, tried the nappy in potty, tried a nappy on for poo but still holding it. Just can't understand why she's been going o.k pooing in her potty for a week... now it's as though something scared her...?

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MollyMooMin · 16/03/2007 21:43

She's been in agony...won't even do it in her nappy. Cried herself to sleep in the end.

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clayre · 16/03/2007 21:48

my dd would only poo in the potty if no one was in the room watching, she would take the potty out or we had to go out, even now (she's 4) she will only do a poo if the bathroom door closed and she's sure no ones near her.

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MollyMooMin · 17/03/2007 05:35

thanks Clayre, tried that, even asked her where she would like it. She's been crying loads in the night with it. If it was constipation we could treat it, but she's not.. without sounding too horrible, we've actually seen it, even tried wiping it out of her bottom, but she's in pain, I think, from "sucking" it back in!

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clayre · 17/03/2007 21:07

any joy yet?

traceyn · 17/03/2007 21:11

have you tried the dreaded sticker chart, sticker for a poo !

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MollyMooMin · 18/03/2007 11:48

She's still in pain. Had a tiny poo last night but only because she couldn't actually hold it in anymore. She's been drinking that much, that in the end I think it just HAD to come. But, today, she's crying "poo-poo" running round the house holding her bum, sounding in pain..Was it constipation that's just left her petrified of pooing..? She was brilliant in her first week of potty training - not one accident, now, since this, she's weed everywhere.. How do you stop them being scared of doing a poo?

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clayre · 18/03/2007 11:57

if you think she's in lots of pain give her calpol to take the pain away she might relax a bit then go, does she drink fresh orange juice, i buy the little cartons of fresh juice with the straws that count as a portion of fruit to keep them regular

maisym · 18/03/2007 12:00

tv & potty - let her forget about doing it - otherwise a nappy for when she's asleep.

oxocube · 18/03/2007 12:00

I would try lactulose from the chemists. My dd had a serious problem where she ended up in hospital having enemas, then home enemas for weeks after because she became constipated. Her problem went on for months and we have to be v careful now (years on) to make sure she drinks lots of water and eats a lot of fibre and fruit to keep her regular

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MollyMooMin · 18/03/2007 16:54

The trouble we're finding now, is that she's not constipated, she's just not letting herself push it out! She's just for some reason become scared of pooing. What do you do to change that? I've told her she'll get chocolate as a reward once she's pooed!,,,

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LilRedWG · 18/03/2007 17:05

According to the info my doctor gave me:

"It is important to encourage your child to try to sit on the toilet/potty for around 5 minutes after main meals to tryto do a poo, it is important to make this a fun experience with toys/books etc. However, any change in their usual pattern or routine at home may trigger constipation.

If a child around 1.5years of age passes a painful poo they are able to avoid passing more poos by holding. This means that they tighten their muscles to hold the poo in. As a result og doing this, the poo gets harder and bigger and therefore even more difficult to pass."

If you'd like me to scan the whole lot in (4 A4 sheets) and email to you either CAT me or post your email address here.

HTH

LilRedWG · 18/03/2007 17:07

Oxocube, my DD (10 months) is in a similar, but not so severe situation. She is on Lactulose and now Senakot too I was told by the GP on Friday that it'd take at least three months to clear the 'backlog'.

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MollyMooMin · 18/03/2007 17:09

LilRedWG, Thank you! Email is..
[email protected]

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LilRedWG · 18/03/2007 17:10

No probs - will do now.

LilRedWG · 18/03/2007 17:32

It's on its way...

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MollyMooMin · 18/03/2007 17:50

Thank you so much! The info will be really handy, as this is where we're heading if she doesn't get over the fear of pooing.
I think it's the psychological problem that's worse to get over.
I just wish I knew what hadmade her scared after being fine, going regularly in her potty for a week..

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hbomb · 18/03/2007 20:22

My DD had exactly this problem was fine being toliet trained and then stopped pooing! We tried everything bribery/choc buttons/stickers and nothing worked.
Doc v unhelpful suggested lentils but as DD had never been constipated we knew this was not the issue.
Spoke to our HV and she said it is a common issue lots of children have and basically they do not like to poo! and will try and avoid it.

What worked for us was to use califig so she had to go! then dosed with lactulose to keep poo soft.We then put a nappy on if requested otherwise we "ignored" ( easier said than done) any jigging we associated with her needing a poo. This helped calm us down as much as her.

When she did a poo in nappy we then gave her a sticker for going so she knew it was a good thing.

Hope this helps - if not at least you know it is nothing you have done wrong and plenty of others have had the same problem!

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MollyMooMin · 19/03/2007 07:39

I've got as though I regret potty training her now. She was crying last night for 3 hours in bed, got up this morning, mentioned poo straight away & keeps telling us to wipe her bum but there's nothing there! It's not only at the times of her wanting a poo that she's jigging around holding her bum, it's ALL the time!... WHY?

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BexScott · 19/03/2007 12:26

I would be interested in the information from your doctor. My little girl is 2 and a half and is under a consultant at the hospital for this 'stool holding'. Lovely! Would be interesting to read another view and more advice on it. If you wouldn't mind emailing it to me I'd be very grateful!
[email protected]

MellowMa · 19/03/2007 12:38

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LilRedWG · 19/03/2007 15:49

Have sent it Bex.

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