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Bedtime Training/dryness/whatever...HELP!

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Flamesparrow · 13/03/2007 11:30

Took DD out of bedtime pull ups at the start of halfterm, lifting her between 10pm & 11pm.

She had lots of dry nights in a row, a couple of accidents as she was waking, but things were going well.

Since about last Weds though it has been a nightmare - wetting before we lift, wetting again later the same night. She has had no drinks after 5pm, wees before bed at 7pm, the lifting as well.

I don't know what to do - last night she went back into the only pair of pull ups we had because I only had one dry sheet, when I asked her if she would wear them she said "Yes please, I don't want a wet bed anymore"

She was doing so well, pull ups cost a fortune (and if she is in them then she wees whenever she feels), but its all falling apart.

I am worrying that she is just plain exhausted from the broken sleep (with the lifting as she always wakes), then where she is sleeping so deeply she is even more likely to wee.

Do I keep going, or leave it until easter and try again?

(She's 4 in May)

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massagemum · 13/03/2007 11:40

I would keep going with lots of encouragement.

My dd aged 3 went through this a few weeks ago. And she had a pretty tough time of it.

She was getting so that she was so worried about it that she was really sad a lot of the time and telling everybody about it.

She became quite distressed. We started off putting her back in pull up as you said but to be honest i think that they made her lose more confidance.

In the end we decided to brave and see what happened., Obviously we had a few accidants but we just clewaned her and the bed up and tried again. She is now dry all through the night again without the need for lifting.

Surfermum · 13/03/2007 11:43

Hiya Flame. DD is nowhere near dry at night yet. The HV told me they wouldn't even consider it a problem until she was 7. We had a go at nappyless nights but after 2 nights and 3 changes of sheets we abandoned it.

I use Lidl's pull ups, they're the cheapest I can find and work out about 18p each.

Sexonslightlypuffylegs · 13/03/2007 12:06

Can I join in. Flamesparrow, my dd is also 4 in May, and we have been going for dry nights for the last 4 weeks or so, as due another baby at the end of April, and don't want 2 in nappies.

She has times when she is great, and then for no reason, we have a wet night - like last night.

We are just soldiering on with it tbh, as we did when potty training during the day. I think if you chop and change from pants one night to pull-ups the next, she may get confused. I know dd would.

Could I also ask, whether you use a waterproof mattress cover or Pampers Bed Mats?

We have a waterproof cover, and I hate it. You take the bedsheet off, and the wee is just sat there and has to be mopped up. I suppose with Pampers it just soaks it up, you then dispose of it and put a fresh one one.

Anyone?

Good Luck.

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massagemum · 13/03/2007 12:19

Has anything happened that might be the reason why this is happening. I know when it was my dd there was a reason behind it.

foxybrown · 13/03/2007 12:26

I agree, its just soldiering on with it until it stops. but I'd suggest 2 layers of bedding - with a waterproof cover inbetween. Whip of the top layer - saves changing whole bed in the night.

My 4 yo didn't get it for ages, then one day - no more accidents. Haven't had any at all in 2 months.

Probably be up changing his bed at 3am having said that .....

cedar12 · 13/03/2007 12:29

My dd is also 4 in may still in pull ups at night. Tried lifting her work like you for a couple of night when started being wet again. I am going to leave it for a while, She started having accidents in the day as well whilst we were trying so I think it was stressing her out. My sil also tried lifting and it didnt work she left it for a couple of months and her ds started having dry pull up by him self. Good luck what ever you do.

marymoocow · 13/03/2007 12:35

I've got a cover that goes on top of the sheets rather than the matress so that if ds does happen to have an accident it can be taken off, thrown in the washing machine/dryer and back on the bed for the next night. Don't then have to change the sheets just him. Usually just put a towel on top for the rest of the night, but to be honest if he does have an accident its only the once.
Not sure i believe in the lifting. None of my 3 dc have needed it, just left them to have dry nappies for a while. Not sure you can train them at night like you can in the daytime. (my own opinion of course)

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Flamesparrow · 13/03/2007 15:16

Sorry went out - I have always been unsure about lifting too, she was dry every morning for a few weeks before we started this (without lifting), which was what made me give it a go. The only pull ups she doesn't automatically wee in are the spiderman ones where you lose spiders (hence the cost!).

I thought I would lift to start will just to be safe, and it was working (and when I stopped it didn't), so went back to lifting and all was fine.

We are all off colour at the moment, but with her she never seems it, she just goes whingey when everyone else has streaming colds iyswim, so it could be she is sleeping very heavily where she's not well.

Its also since I started working all hours possible to get the business off the ground maybe it is something psychological - she has been asking for bottles back too, which I had put down to her seeing her friend with them

I think I might have broken my baby

Surfer - it helps you saying your DD isn't dry - I remember potty training together, and all DD's school friend mums seem as theirs have been dry pretty much since daytimes!!

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Moomin · 14/03/2007 11:52

any advice for my friend whose ds is 4 and a half? He's been dry in the day for ages now but just can't get through the night. Before they decided to try it, his nappy/pullup wasn't dry in the mornings but they thought he was doing most of the wetting just before he got up because ehe couldn't be bothered getting up for the toilet - they wondered if it was a 'boy' thing?

Anyway they went cold turkey and took off the pull-ups and put the 2 layers of bedclothes and waterproof mats etc. but last night for instance they got him up twice and still found he'd wet the bed this morning. She told this morning she feels like just putting the pullups back on. I said I thought it would be a step backwards - any advice or ideas? Should they stop the lefting out as suggested here?

Surfermum · 15/03/2007 20:49

Flame I read on here too that there's a hormone that needs to kick in to enable them to be dry at night. I've always got the feel from other threads that this really isn't a problem and it'll happen when it happens. So ignore the other mums - they're all different and do things at different times.

DD sleeps so soundly at night, a good 12 hours most nights, that I think she's just too deeply asleep to know if she needs to go.

She has a big drink with her tea around 6pm. But she's really bad at getting enough fluids inside her so I'm not going to take the tea time drink away so she doesn't wee in the night.

I wet the bed until quite late too - mum reckons it only improved when I had my appendix out at 11 . Maybe there's a part of me that remembers waking up in a wet bed and I don't want dd to have to starting worrying about it like I did.

I don't know. But at the moment I'm just going with the flow (unintentional pun ).

BTW can't wait till our meet up, I have stuff to talk to you about - I just did my first two meditations and it was AMAZING.

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Flamesparrow · 15/03/2007 22:04

Oooh excited now We need a meet up we can drag Kittypickle along to too - she is being my guardian angel right now.

She's been back in pull ups the last 3 nights (not well) and she is sooo much happier. I'm leaving it be for the time.

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Hulababy · 15/03/2007 22:10

DD will be 5 next month. Been out of nighttime nappies since turning 4 at her request. Have had weeks fof no accidents, then have aa series of accidents. Juice definitely makes th eporblem worse, so have elimated that as much as possible. But also over tiredness, being off colour - and possibly other random things. DD is still a bit hit and miss regards this. But as I have read so often on MN - it isn't a worry and nothing to stress about. She'll get there in er own time.

BTW, we use Mothercare's reusable bed mats - they are matress prottector material but go on top of the sheet, so makes bed changes quick and eaiser. And less expensive thanbuying Pampers type ones all the time.

octopussyintummy · 16/03/2007 11:55

Flamesparrow - I bought a couple of pairs of kushies bright training pants for ds2 for night time from php - they would hold a full wee and were like pants (ish!) - he liked the pictures - and of course they were washable. They do some night time ones too - but found the bright ones were great. I think they were about £5 a pair (had 3 pairs) - have a look at www.thebabycatalogue.com. It gave me the reassurance that would not be changing beds in the middle of the night but he wasn't wearing nappies as such or disps!

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Flamesparrow · 16/03/2007 16:41

Oooh thank you - I'll look. I have bedwetter pants but DD reacts to the bindings.

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