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Eeek is this normal................? A bit grim, sorry

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Yorkiegirl · 02/07/2004 20:35

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SoupDragon · 02/07/2004 20:40

Doesn't sound normal to me.

Yorkiegirl · 02/07/2004 20:43

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SoupDragon · 02/07/2004 20:45

Probably tomorrow... but I'm very much a "leave it til tomorrow" person if it's out of hours. Can't remember - is she already being invesigated by the docs?

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SoupDragon · 02/07/2004 20:46

Could it be piles because of all the trouble she's having which makes her have to push harder than usual?

Yorkiegirl · 02/07/2004 20:46

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Yorkiegirl · 02/07/2004 20:47

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SoupDragon · 02/07/2004 20:49

Me neither but I guess if she's having to struggle and push, it's possible. Poor little love!

Definitely get her seen as an emergency tomorrow.

lou33 · 02/07/2004 21:05

It happened to one of mine when they were constipated and I took her to the doc. Gp made me feel a complete fool by saying it was completely normal and why had I brought her/him (can't remember which one it was) in?

karen99 · 03/07/2004 14:28

Sorry to hear this yorkiegirl. I found these links which looked useful. HTH

Stool Soiling and Constipation in Children
Constipation (Age2)

Also a bit of vaseline on her bottom might ease the soreness if it's cracked or bleeding.

Tessiebear · 03/07/2004 14:31

Only advice i have to offer is that i had the experience of seeing my DS1 Poo the other day and when the rectum is prepairing to poo (Sorry bit graphic) it does look really odd and i felt like i was viewing more than i should IYKWIM

Yorkiegirl · 03/07/2004 19:24

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Yorkiegirl · 04/07/2004 00:25

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NomDePlume · 04/07/2004 00:30

No advice I'm afraid, but sympathies to your little one, Yorkiegirl. It sounds pretty unpleasant for her

SoupDragon · 04/07/2004 00:32

Sorry no experience

Hopefully the lactulose will sort out a lot of your DDs problems and the prolapsed bowel is a symptom of these problems rather than the cause (IYSWIM)

Don't envy you the Bum Watch though.

Lisa78 · 04/07/2004 00:33

not heard of it really I'm afraid, I'd be inclined to have it investigated further though if it was me or mine
Cuddles to your dd

karen99 · 04/07/2004 12:37

Another link that may be of help..

And a comment from another "Rectal prolapse in children frequently corrects itself. The doctor will instruct parents how to reduce the prolapse when it occurs and how to prevent constipation in their child."

Lots of dates, pears & apricots help shift my ds. Here is a list of high fibre fruit/veg

Yorkiegirl · 06/07/2004 14:05

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twiglett · 06/07/2004 14:15

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Yorkiegirl · 06/07/2004 14:17

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roisin · 06/07/2004 14:20

Oh your poor dd1 Yorkiegirl. Hope you get a quick referral and get this sorted out for her.

roisin · 06/07/2004 14:26

Yorkiegirl - when my ds1 was little he used to suffer from constipation, though not to the extent your dd is suffering of course. (I'd actually forgotten all about it as it was such a long time ago.)

Anyway, the only thing that helped us was a very high fibre muffin recipe that I found:

This recipe comes from Susan Reimer's book 'Muffins', which can be bought from Lakeland Limited, (cost about £4, I think). The book is full of loads of dead easy foolproof muffin recipes, all of which sound much more delicious than the one below, and are simpler! buy it! (Lakeland also sell muffin trays and paper liners).

I calculated that each muffin of this recipe contains a massive 4g of fibre - so go easy with them, especially for very young children.

ORANGE-DATE BRAN MUFFINS
7 oz plain wholemeal flour
2 oz natural wheat bran
1.5 oz wheat germ*
1 tsp baking powder
1 tsp bicarb of soda
.5 tsp salt
4 oz butter or marg (softened)
finely grated rind of 1 orange
5 oz soft brown sugar
1 egg, beaten with a fork
10 fl oz milk
3 oz dried dates, chopped (or raisins)

  1. Prepare muffin tins, preferably with paper liners as these muffins do tend to stick. Preheat oven to 375-400 deg F (190-200 C), gas mark 5.
  2. Combine wholemeal flour, wheat bran, wheat germ, baking powder, bicarb of soda, and salt. Stir well with fork.
  3. In a large bowl, blend together butter, orange rind and sugar. Add egg gradually, beating well until smooth.
  4. Use a minimum of stirring for the following steps: Add half of dry ingredients to butter mixture. When this is mostly incorporated, add all of milk. After a few strokes, add remaining dry ingredients and continue stirring just until evenly blended. Add chopped dates during the final strokes. Batter will be thick.
  5. Spoon into muffin cups. Makes 12 standard size muffins. Bake for 20-25 minutes. Tops should spring back when touched. If liners are not used, cool for several minutes to make removal easier.

My boys and I enjoy these split and buttered. But they don't appeal to everyone - my husband can't stand them. But then he doesn't like anything that he suspects of being healthy.

*Wheat germ is great. Add a spoonful to just about anything - yoghurt, salad, stew, etc. It's very high in fibre and extremely nutritious.

HTH

Yorkiegirl · 06/07/2004 14:28

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