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DS NOT SLEPT ALL NIGHT - NOW NOT SLEEPING TODAY! WHAT THE **** DO I DO?

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cruisemum1 · 04/01/2007 10:27

My ds 17 wks today, has a cold and consequently was awake hourly last night. A few weeks ago he was doing 10 hr stints at night but he is bf and now wakes 2 - 3 times per night for a suck. I'm sure it is not for food but just comfort. He won't sleep in his cot in the day, is a terrible napper and hs just gone to sleep in his buggy now after a morning of failed attempts at settling him. I REALLY want him to take daytime naps in his cot as I feel it would be far more comfortable and he would get a better quality of sleep esp as he gets bigger and needs to move around more. It is taking over my life and I am getting desperate to fix this. Nighttimes are getting better re: hte settling period but he still will only fall asleep while sucking and I often have to go u/s two - three times to settle him again. I also have a dd age 9.

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cruisemum1 · 04/01/2007 10:28

btw - everytime he woke last night he would only settle to sleep again after sucking.

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fifiandtheflowertots · 04/01/2007 10:47

does he have a dummy. It seems if he's settling back of after sucking but he's not hungry he might settle with a dummy.

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cruisemum1 · 04/01/2007 11:03

I have tried every dummy under the sun. he won't take one. Now he is awake again after 30 mins nap

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Labradora · 04/01/2007 11:43

Try Tixylix - it contains a sedative!

Labradora · 04/01/2007 11:44

Sorry Tixylix nightime that is

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cruisemum1 · 04/01/2007 12:17

have got medised! not a long term solution though is it.....

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morningpaper · 04/01/2007 12:19

I really don't know if there is much you can do with terrible sleepers - I have two

I went to the GP's last week and I said the baby was awake a lot in the night, and the GP was typing up notes and saying "So, did she wake every 2 hours or so?" and I was really confused because she actually woke every FEW MINUTES, throughout the ENTIRE night. Every 2 hours would be a FANTASTIC night.

She is 14 months.

Anyway you don't want to hear this, I will let someone more helpful advise you...

Labradora · 04/01/2007 12:23

No, not a long term solution, but when a small child has a cold it can disrupt sleep and then they get into a bad pattern of wakeful sleep. Tixylix nt can help with sleep in the short term (ie 3 nights) and therefore may prevent a new wakeful pattern developing. BOL

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cruisemum1 · 04/01/2007 19:12

anyone else got any advice on daytime napping/nightwaking for comfort not food?

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dueat44 · 05/01/2007 12:36

When he's well and truly over his illness, I would start being a bit tougher. Go in and say 'nighty night' when he wakes up, but don't offer food. Or just offer water. Given that he was sleeping through the night so well, I think you are right and it is comfort / habit rather than hunger. But do wait till he is thoroughly better, in case he has a hunger backlog from being off his food while ill.

If someone offered me a Mars bar at 3 in the morning for a few nights, I'd start waking up for it, believe me!

DizzyBint · 05/01/2007 12:37

hae you got the head end of the mattress raised? helps with breathing.

Jackie2kids · 05/01/2007 13:00

I also have 2 poor sleepers. DS always had to be rocked to sleep and both have stopped daytime naps completely by about 20mnths. Both have to come into our bed if wake during the night as won't go back to sleep alone. I tried everything. The best thing for me was to just accept it.

maisym · 05/01/2007 13:01

co-sleep?

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cruisemum1 · 06/01/2007 10:38

thx for all posts but what i am looking for is a way round the night waking for comfort thing. he is an awful napper in the day and so is tired and wired. i feel so sorry for him but dont know what to do??? . he never naps in his cot and i feel it is pointless making him and therefore spending all day listening to a crying, tired baby who wont nap. he naps in his buggy/carseat on the move but this is hard when i have other family members to consider. what to do????

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maisym · 06/01/2007 20:56

mine never took naps in their cots - co-sleeping really worked at night & I carried my lo's around & just bf on demand. It's tiring so rather than fight it I found ways to make things easier as I was tired. best wishes xxx

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cruisemum1 · 07/01/2007 08:37

maisym - thanksfor post. I don't want to get into co sleeping as he will happily go down in his cot after night feeds (mostly anyway!). The prob is putting him down to bed takes an age of bf to sleep and then he often fusses because he is so overful. No joy on the dummy front - he hates them! He was sleeping well up until about a month ago but I feel he has got used to night feeding now and I have to find a way of weaning him off me at those times..
Daytime naps would be more acceptable on the move if he stayed asleep for long enough but it is rare that he stays asleep for longer than 30 - 45mins max. This is not enough for him as he does not cope well with the final run up to bedtime as he is so cranked up. I cannot bring his bedtime any further forward - it is 6:30ish as I have to do dinner/homework with dd etc.

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maisym · 07/01/2007 09:26

don't know what to suggest apart from be kind to yourself to get through this tiring phase

maisym · 07/01/2007 09:26

best wishes xxx

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cruisemum1 · 07/01/2007 10:53

maisymum - thankyou

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cruisemum1 · 09/01/2007 16:37

problem still exists - anyone?

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Mumpbump · 09/01/2007 16:48

I'm suspect it is just a phase and he will grow out of it. Lots of babies seem to go through a wakeful phase around this age. Have a look at some of the other threads and you will see there are quite a few about sleeping difficulties around the 16 - 20 week mark. Not much practical help though, I know.

shazronnie · 09/01/2007 16:53

My DS1 only napped in the day at that age.

You could try and regulate the times he has those naps - eg by going for a walk in the buggy at the same time each day so he gets in the routine of falling asleep at that time. Then, with time, you might be able to settle him without the walk.

At night, I agree you have to be tough. Decide what time you consider ok to need a bf (For me this was after about 4 am! and i would usually keep them in bed with me then til morning.) Wait until he is better though.

DS1 only took longer naps when he was down to 1 sleep a day - then I got 2 hrs afternoon bliss! (then DS2 arrived......)

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cruisemum1 · 09/01/2007 18:46

mumpbump - I soooo want to believe you are right . If it a phase I will willingly put up with it!
Shaz - funnily enough I spoke to hv today who said that bearing in mind he was sleepign 8 - 10 hours at ngiht prior to his cold, that I should not feed him at every waking. Hard though isn't it when you know the very thing that will get him back off to sleep...
I am gonna try to hold off though - so thanks

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Mumpbump · 10/01/2007 12:32

At least if it is a habit you need to break and he has been a good sleeper, it might only take a couple of nights... Hope he gets back to his previous routine soon!

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cruisemum1 · 10/01/2007 17:50

mumpbump -thanks. It ishard to let him cry in the middle of the night as I have to consider dd and dh. Sometimes I wish I was on my own or with my mum for a couple of nights then I could fix it without anyone minding....

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