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Hungry baby milk just at night to ensure a full nights sleep

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mumsrthebest · 24/01/2016 18:00

Hi all, my son is 11 weeks old and is still waking in the night. I know he is still young but would like to try and get him to sleep through the night. He usually has his last bottle at around 10pm - 10:30pm and wakes at 2am and then 5am. On his 2am feed he generally only has an ounce and falls asleep. This tells me he doesn't really need it so I have been trying to put him off by putting his dummy back in and this works for about an hour and then to be honest I give in and give him a bottle (too tired).

My friend suggested I give him hungry baby milk for his last feed before bed. Has anyone else tried this? She tried it with her son and he slept through as he felt fuller I presume.

My son has had awful colic too that seems to have gone this past week or so but we are still putting colief in the milk (going to reduce dose next week as he will be 12 was) Do I need to do it ŵith the hungry baby milk too?

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TheCatsMeow · 27/01/2016 10:14

writer maybe. DS would often have his dummy over a bottle and I don't play with him in the night or change him unless he really desperately needs it, and if he messes about I put him back and leave the room or take him downstairs in the sling and get on with watching TV/reading a book and pretty much leave him to it and he gets bored and goes to sleep

Diddlydokey · 27/01/2016 10:58

There is something in people that they want to stuff babies

how fat babies are able to get on normal formula

Shock

Wow, that's goady and thinly veiled anti-ff! You can't over feed a baby. They control their own intake very well, certainly can't force it into them when they don't want to take it.

Are you able to walk into a room of infants and see which are BF or FF due to their size?

There is nothing wrong with trying to encourage calories to be taken on board during the day and to have a stretch at night without a feed.

Personally, if weaning is going well I wouldn't be offering milk at night after 7 months and I think that 2 night feeds at 11 weeks is sufficient.

Alisvolatpropiis · 27/01/2016 11:10

Polly yeah my 25th centile, 15lb 7 month old is a right fatty.

Fucking formula Hmm

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Diddlydokey · 27/01/2016 11:12

Ali you're probably just starving your DC for selfish sleep purposes.

Writerwannabe83 · 27/01/2016 12:00

writer maybe. DS would often have his dummy over a bottle and I don't play with him in the night or change him unless he really desperately needs it, and if he messes about I put him back and leave the room or take him downstairs in the sling and get on with watching TV/reading a book and pretty much leave him to it and he gets bored and goes to sleep

But at what age did you start doing this? As young as 11 weeks?

Babymouse · 27/01/2016 12:17

Can your partner take over one of the night feeds?

unimaginativename13 · 27/01/2016 12:36

Wow!!

unimaginativename13 · 27/01/2016 12:39

We could just argue the BF babies are using you as a dummy rather than feeding. If they wake through the night do you try to settle them or just shove them on the boob?

How do you know they are waking for a feed? Or do you just give them boob everytime they make a noise?

TheCatsMeow · 27/01/2016 12:43

writer about 8 weeks

53rdAndBird · 27/01/2016 12:45

There is something in people that they want to stuff babies and I think that hungry milk is a product created to prey on those people.

But that doesn't even make sense Confused The people I knew who used 'hungry baby' milk did it because they thought their babies were drinking too much standard formula. It wasn't a way to stuff more milk into them, it was the opposite.

LittleBearPad · 27/01/2016 12:47

You started leaving your baby at 8 weeks to get bored and go to sleep when he woke at night. Poor little thing.

TheCatsMeow · 27/01/2016 12:49

LittleBearPad I would go in, settle him and leave him for a bit. Repeat. If he wasn't settling I would feed him.

What exactly is wrong with that?

unimaginativename13 · 27/01/2016 12:53

I don't really think you know what your talk about LittleBear,

Hungry baby formula is for babies just before weaning so when they are hungry but you 'can't' feed them.

If I put to you, hungry baby formula or weaning at 4 months what would you say?

Effiethemonster · 27/01/2016 13:58

It's not actually possible to delay feeds with a dummy is it?! If a baby wants feeding they won't be placated with a dummy.

TheCatsMeow · 27/01/2016 14:35

Effie exactly, which is why if he wouldn't settle I'd feed him. But I didn't feed him every time he woke as he didn't need it.

Effiethemonster · 27/01/2016 15:50

Yeah I bf and I do that, not sure what the outrage there is.

I'm also unsure about the hungry baby formula but isn't it just the same as offering feeds more often in the evening to "tank them up" to sleep longer? Although tbh I've tried that and my 11 week old still wakes up every 3 hours so nothing is guaranteed is it! Sleeping through is the holy grail and I wonder how much of it is down to what we do or what the babies want to do tbh, a bit of both I guess.

unimaginativename13 · 27/01/2016 16:08

With formula you have a recommended amount based on weight anyway. You can't compare to BF.

So if they are having the same between 6am and 8pm as a baby who feeds every 3 hours it doesn't really matter does it!

My DS has just slept through his afternoon bottle time as we went out this morning- does it really matter! Technically he dropped a feed but during the day and I napped on the sofa. Same as if someone did that in the night really, does that make me a bad person as he didn't wake like an alarm clock?

slebmum1 · 27/01/2016 16:58

The two 'fattest' babies I know are EBF. The method of feeding has fuck all to do with it.

LittleBearPad · 27/01/2016 17:10

Hungry baby formula is for babies just before weaning so when they are hungry but you 'can't' feed them.

This is utter rubbish. It is an alternative more old fashioned formula that has a greater proportion of casein than modern stage 1 formula which has more whey.

It is useful for hungry babies who are not satisfied by stage 1 formula and are downing significant quantities of formula every hour/two hours or so. It is not for getting babies to sleep longer or part of any weaning process.

LittleBearPad · 27/01/2016 17:12

And at four months I'd say more stage 1 formula if the baby was hungry. Or actually assume it's the four month sleep regression and feed and comfort them through it.

LittleBearPad · 27/01/2016 17:16

Unimaginative13 what has your son's nap today got to with anything. No one is saying babies must be woken for feeds are they

unimaginativename13 · 27/01/2016 17:20

Hungry milk is designed to help delay the early onset of weaning, if you are combination feeding or your baby is not being breastfed.

How hungry baby milk is described.

So basically you are say just give first milk every hour instead.

Alisvolatpropiis · 27/01/2016 17:23

unimaginative

It's NHS advice to stick with first milk

unimaginativename13 · 27/01/2016 17:25

No I get that!

I'm just pointing out what it's use is!

LittleBearPad · 27/01/2016 17:29

It's designed for use from birth.

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