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How are health visitors trained?

18 replies

achristmassyboo · 13/12/2006 19:14

This isn't an attack on HVs, just genuinely curious as my mum was told that HVs don't even have compulsory child development training? I cannot quite believe this is true, but then i look at some of the advice i've had from mine and the stories on here, and there is a little twinge of doubt.

So, does anyone know?

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ImMcDreamyingofawhitexmas · 13/12/2006 19:18

You did have to be a nurse first but I was told last week that there is going to be/is already a direct entrance path into the profession. You do have to do child development but HV doesn't just cover children it's supposed to be from the cradle to the grave.

achristmassyboo · 13/12/2006 19:26

Ah i didn't realise that, I thought they were only to do with children, but that's probably cos i'd never thought about it much. I'm glad to hear they are trained, like i said couldn't quite believe they weren't. mind you, my mum believes some odd things...

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DizzyBinterWonderland · 13/12/2006 19:30

yes they have to work as a nurse for i think 2 years. then they can do health visitor training which depends on which NHS trust they're in. sometimes it's just a year long course, half theory, half practice. not much really when you think they cover all ages.

MammyMto3kids · 13/12/2006 19:31

I want to say 'badly' but feel I'm being cynical!!!!! I'm a nurse who used to want to be a HV, I had long chats with a student HV with my ds and she said the course is about 14 months long, absolutley, totally intensive and - in her words - 'doesn't prepare you for the job' I would like to say in her defence, she's excellent as is her mentor! I don't know the content of the course but it is mainly child focused. I would have gone to HV via midwifery but I think it's frowned upon now! She went to it from adult A&E. They get paid stacks too!!!!!

niceglasses · 13/12/2006 19:32

I think they get them all in a room and they have to say

'Its perfectly normal'
'Its perfectly normal at this stage'
'Its perfectly normal for a baby of this age'
'Yes, perfectly normal'

In dire situations try:

'Have you tried offering more feed'

Thats it as far as I can see.

MrsMaloryTowers · 13/12/2006 19:33

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DizzyBinterWonderland · 13/12/2006 19:35

i think the pay is around £25k more if they do extras, and more if they become an hv consultant.

mamijacacalys · 13/12/2006 19:44

LOL at niceglasses

onzephyrstdayofchristmas · 13/12/2006 19:46

I would like to be a HV one day maybe when the kids are all at school. My old HV was afantastic lady, she told me that I'd get into it quite easily as I am NNEB/NVQ trained and that a vast majority of HV's nowadays are ex nursery/nneb/teachers etc which I was quite surprised at.

ImMcDreamyingofawhitexmas · 13/12/2006 19:49

You do still have to be a qualifed nurse or midwife at the moment.

tassis · 13/12/2006 19:50

(totally off the subject, but on things they say, mine calls me "mum" all the time and it DOES MY HEAD IN!!)

DizzyBinterWonderland · 13/12/2006 19:50

oh yes 'how's mum?' !!!

MammyMto3kids · 13/12/2006 19:56

onezephyr, don't want to burst your bubble but the competition for HV places is fierce!!! My manager, yes, of a ward, with 10 years nursing experience didn't get in, there were about 100+ applicants for four places! There may be other ways in such as self-funding or student wage, I think these were well-paid training places from the trust. Also, Dizzy, I can assure you they get FAR more than £25K! They used to be an H grade on the old system and nurses used to start at a D grade, Sisters were a F, managers a G and they were H's!!!! Mega bucks!!!! Again, may be different now, all the pay structure has had a shake up over the last 2 years and they may have lost out. I dunno!!!! Not so 'up' on it all anymore, now I'm not so interested in being one! I totally agree with the 'perfectly normal' thing!!!!

MammyMto3kids · 13/12/2006 19:58

ImMc, not sure, there may be a direct route now, why don't you google it? or try an NHS site?!

DizzyBinterWonderland · 13/12/2006 19:59

they normally start at grade G, about £24 to 28k. so with piddly wage rises, about 25k average. but yes, can be high if they do extras.

MammyMto3kids · 13/12/2006 20:01

I can't believe that grade G's only get £24-£28K a year, there's a very small margin between bottom and top then and the responsiblity differences are HUGE!

ImMcDreamyingofawhitexmas · 13/12/2006 20:08

That's what I did and it's still only for trained nurses and midwives with 2 years post reg experience but my HV told me that a direct route was starting - bit like midwifery changed years ago

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