a nice quote...

[NappiesGalooooooooooooria]

got this off a syruppy american website i havent managed to get around to unsubscribing to (they auto signed me up somehere along the way...)

"You must first have a lot of patience to learn to have patience."

~ Stanislaw J. Lec

stuck a chord with me, in my current crusade to become Calm, Logical, Sane Mama (rather than Angry Awful Mother which i fear i can be sometimes)
dunno who Stanislav is but, quite an astute observation, no?

lol nice.

One good one I heard was 'children learn through their eyes not their ears' (advocating being a good role model rather than constant criticism)

From a 17th Century childcare manual

yes indeedy lockets. i noticed somewhere the other day (on a thread i was lurking on, wierdo lurker that i am sometimes)that you had yours in 31 months. snap!

can be a bit like that sometimes, eh?

what the hell do you think that welsh bird who will have 7 under 5 be like???

17th century childcare manual?? d'you get that free on the nhs then?

tis a bloody good point actually.

i managed to do a years course in montessori early years teaching during ds1's first year (pg with ds2 of course, lol) which was really great i found. taught me a lot about development, human nature, the ways in which children learn... am very glad to have done thet

lol lockets, mine are all ds's

shall we trade one, just for the sake of variety?

i don't get it ..

what dont you get? can i help?

I don't get it either.

the quote am i being dumb?

the quote am i being dumb?

I'm dumb too Maybe I am overthinking it.

It is the irony that to learn to be patient you already need to be patient iyswim. At least that is what I think it means

It makes no sense to me - you can't be patient unless you are already, so if you're not you're screwed?

slight hijack~sorry! Another sixteenth century quote that is great: 'the fault no child ever looses is the one he was most punished for' Cesare Beccaria.

In response to the OP's quote I think the quote means that it takes a lot of patience to learn to be patient, or for patience to come naturally a lot of effort is involved first in consciously trying to be patient? ...how I understood it anyway...??

I have always quite liked this quote:

"Hey lazerlips, your mamma was a snowblower!"

Too much for my brain to cope with today

I'm at the "fire bad, tree pretty" stage today....

I think it just means that in order to learn patience, you have to first practice being patient. It doesn't mean that if you're not patient then you're screwed; it just means that the only person who can teach you patience is yourself because you have to practise it in order to learn it.

Or something ...

yeah, i think what wigwam and climbing rosie said... was my more positive/constructive take on it than the slightly defeatist 'if you aint got it youre screwed' approach

the irony that it takes a lot of effort to learn how to go about things in an apparently effortless sort of way... i liked that part too.

but totally understand 'fire bad, tree pretty' mentality!! spend quite a bit of time there myself

In the days when swearing in films used to be badly dubbed/replaced..

"FUN YOU MOTHER CRUSHER!" from Robocop

@ the "slightly defeatest"

lol at the random quotes from 80s movies! reminds me of a friend at school who had the oddest sense of humour... (a cahracteristic i like )

and yes, 'slightly defeatist'... a bit like, 'ever so slightly COMPLETELY F*ED!!!'

oh its a delightful place, my head, sometimes

Here's one that people very rarely get...

"And what would you like for Christmas?"

"A car and a train and three nintendos!"

"Yeeeeeeeeeeees, and a pencil's also nice..."