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MumEve · 25/11/2006 12:05

Is anyone else longing for the day when their child/ children are old enough to have playdates without the mums along? My son is almost 4 and the mum of one of his best friends is hard work! She is a terrifically negative person with loads of personal hang-ups and insecurities. Although she describes herself as fiercely competitive in life her personal achievements make it clear her ambitions don?t stretch very far. What she does (and I?m sure we all know someone like this) is steer conversations around to topics in which she manages to oh so subtly, almost imperceptibly so, make comments which are designed to put I, my job, my house or my son down. When visits are over I am a tight ball of tension which takes days to ease off?the worst worst part of this is the feelings of defensiveness I land up having as if I am unwittingly in a competition in which I never entered!

Some examples of her put-downs: my child has been invited to x and y?s birthday parties and I wonder why yours hasn?t; we were looking in your area and realised we could buy much more house than in our own area ? it?s so much cheaper. The cherry on the cake this week was about my new business which I have just started, which incidentally is already doing well. After I had answered a question explaining what it is I do for my customers, her only response was an derisive and incredulous ?do they really need you to tell them that?!? etc etc.

I say nothing, don?t let on at all how I am feeling??but am longing for the day when our children can play together without having to spend time in her company. Obviously it?s easy enough to make sure the children can never play together but they are genuinely fond of one another. Please tell me when is the day going to come when my child?s social life isn?t a torturous ordeal for me at the same time??

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tribpot · 25/11/2006 12:28

God. My first two thoughts are:

  • can you arrange playdates with a bigger group of mums, so the effect of this woman is diluted?
  • could you offer to take her little one out for the day, i.e. without her, in the hopes she might reciprocate and then you can avoid each other a bit more!

I work with someone a bit like that; she arranges girls' lunches with me and the other two girls in our team. When we go out, she always leaves early and the feeling of tension going out of the group when she leaves is incredible. Feels like you can breathe again and be normal.

themulledSNOWMANneredjanitor · 25/11/2006 12:31

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GoingQuietlyMad · 25/11/2006 12:41

Mmmm - I think i know this person or someone very like it.

I can understand how horrible it is - a very good friend of mine suddenly started doing this to me all the time. It used to drive me mad, and dh hated her in the end. Every time we went out together she would make a series of barbed remarks aimed at putting me down in some way. I am not sure to this day whether it was deliberate?

If it helps, tell me the sort of thing she is saying to get it out of your system!

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GoingQuietlyMad · 25/11/2006 12:48

Sorry - you already did!

Well I tend to give one or two comments the benefit of the doubt, but this woman is obviously doing it on purpose!!! Too many for coincidence!

In the end, I did actually start dropping very large hints along the lines of:

"I'm trying to think of a way that I can not be offended by that comment" (followed by laughter)

"Gosh, do you realise the way that sounded? Someone more sensitive might take it the wrong way and think you were being nasty"

Or fight fire with fire: re the house - "REALLY??? I find that really surprising" or the party invitations "Well, there's no accounting for taste".

All delivered with a smile and laughter.

wheresthehamster · 25/11/2006 12:57

I think if people are unhappy they're looking for something in your life that they can feel better about. Hence put downs. I think they want you to agree with them that your life isn't all a bed of roses. I tend to feel sorry for them.

As soon as your child feels ready to be left I would make some excuse to the mum about having errands to run and would it be ok if you didn't come along as well.
I left mine at about 3.5 when they felt confident enough to express a preference for what they wanted to eat for tea and could ask to go to the toilet.

Just thought of something - if you weren't there this woman wouldn't try to wheedle things out of your son would she? I've known women like that.

pointydog · 25/11/2006 12:59

Can't you just ask the child over without the mum? Tell her she can go and do somehting cheerful.

Once kids talk, I'd never think of asking the mum over too if I didn't really know her. I can see how it could be very stressful.

Twiglett · 25/11/2006 13:05

don't understand why you don't tackle her with humour when she says these type of things so she realises

stuff like

"Oh My God" grin or giggle "you didn't really just say that, gosh you're so unbelievably rude" then continue to laugh as though you were making the biggest joke as she fumbles her apology

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