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How long did it take your child to feel the 'I need a poo' feeling?

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Pruni · 02/11/2006 08:49

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SenoraPostrophe · 02/11/2006 08:55

oh dear. we had this a few months ago. it took a good 6 weeks, maybe 2 months I'm afraid, although by the end I know he did feel the urge beforehand, because he'd always say "poo" before doing one where he stood.

how long has he been potty training?

Pruni · 02/11/2006 09:07

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SenoraPostrophe · 02/11/2006 18:23

I'm going to miss these marble floors when we move back to the uk and ds2 has his potty training. a tip (possibly): ALL spanish babies are potty trained in summer. then you just don't put trousers on them for a bit. if you so much as mention it in winter everyone looks at you as if you're mad. sensible really.

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sarahalloween · 02/11/2006 18:32

DS1 has been totally dry during the day (nighttime is a different story but not even attempting to go there!) for well over 8 months but only started pooing in the toilet two weeks ago! He would wait every night until his pull up was on and then poo without fail within half an hour of being in bed. I got so wound up about it and think I started to freak him out a bit but once I calmed down and stopped trying to force him on the loo before bed he has just cracked it himself.

I'm now just hoping that one morning very soon he will wake up dry so i can start thinking about night time training

alex8 · 02/11/2006 18:37

4 very very very long months

Pruni · 03/11/2006 09:36

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maisiemog · 04/11/2006 23:26

I would have thought that they would feel more obvious pressure when they need a bowel movement than when they need to pee. My DS is totally reliable about getting on the potty for poo, but it can be a battle to get him on for every pee.
I started him on the potty when he was 14 months - 10 months ago, and he had quite a few accidents, but I would say about two months ago he just started using the potty for poo all the time. So I suppose it took him a eight months to 'get it'.
If your DS has the peeing sorted, I suspect he is pretty well aware of when he needs to poo, but just doesn't connect with doing it in the appropriate place.
It's hard to say, but if you could convince him that dogs would use the toilet if they were allowed, but only humans have this honour, and isn't he lucky.
Do you think you could place the responsibilty for cleaning up on him, and tell him that it is very tiring for you to clean up after him, kind of appeal to his better nature?
Or bribe him?
Or take him to the loo around ten minutes after he has eaten and plonk him on. Timing is everything.
Or take him to a hypnotist (perhaps get some tidying up and being a good boy suggestions put in there while you're at it)
Or take him out for a day's shopping in his pooey pants. Heehee
Or somehow link it to his Christmas gift entitlement?

Hmmmm
Thinking
What is your instinct?

alex8 · 05/11/2006 09:18

maisiemog its much more common for children (especially boys) to have problems with pooing than weeing even if it doesn't seem logical to you' just have a look on the threads on here or talk to some other mothers with more than one child.

maisiemog · 05/11/2006 21:13

Hee hee! Somebody got out of bed on the wrong side today!

maisiemog · 05/11/2006 21:15

...and stood in a pile of poo.

maisiemog · 05/11/2006 21:56

OK I've taken a bit deep breath.
What I wanted to say was that, I did read up a bit when I decided to try elimination communication (reading your baby's visual cues before they poo or pee) and I think that generally, bowel control is mastered before bladder, that seemed to be the thrust of most articles I read.
I kind of thought, based on my reading, that my ds would get the hang of pooing first, and he has, he pees all over the shop, but he always poos on the potty. I hope he achieves bladder control in the next six months or so, because my house smells of vinegar and water where I spray the carpet.
I suppose what I was thinking was 'is the issue (excuse the pun), that he isn't feeling the sensation, or that he is feeling the sensation, but failing to then poo where his mummy would like him to poo? IYSWIM.

alex8 · 06/11/2006 07:41

Yes I read that in the developmental books too. Sadly many children I met have not. I don't think they connect the feeling with the pooing or at least my son didn't. It was nothing about not connecting it with the appropriate place to do it. There have been at least 5 threads about it since I first started in April. He was dry in the day within 2 weeks and at night at about 3 weeks. So he had made the connections there.

threebob · 06/11/2006 07:52

Ds totally got weeing a long time before pooing (probably another 4-5 monther here too). I think it was a frequency thing for him, peeing got done and rewarded several times a day, whereas he only got one chance to get the poo right.

I think this is one area were the books are misleading - a child may recognise he is doing a poo in his nappy before he recognises that he is doing a wee in his nappy. But realising that you are going to need one in 30 seconds time is another matter entirely.

maisiemog · 06/11/2006 20:31

It is quite intriguing. I had read that bowel control at night was the first in a lot of children.
I do remember DS having pooey nappies in the morning when he was smaller, but now he usually goes first thing.
I'm wondering whether Pruni's DS has control at night or if he is in a nappy at night? It is a start, just the day to sort.
Looks for postives.
I probably covered this, but one of the most helpful tips from ECing books is to use the child's natural timing, and I think this is the technique employed by a lot of grannies. I have found the chances of catching a poo are greatly increased if the child is taken to the loo or potty after a meal. Even if he can't control it, at least he is in the right place when it comes. And take a newspaper just like Daddy.

gladbag · 06/11/2006 20:57

I think that my ds got the 'poo' feeling before knowing about wees, but only because whilst still in nappies he started taking himself off to do a 'private' poo eg. crouched behind the sofa, behind a door etc.

You would have thought that this would have made the potty training easier, but it didn't, and he was dry long before he'd sorted the poos out (and we're still not completely there now, 3 months down the line). He is now much better at pooing as the potty is on the floor in the loo, rather than being in the middle of the sitting room for fast access. He really has a privacy issue, even to the extent of telling me he is going to wee, sitting himself down then grunting "Don't look me, mummy" or "Go away now, mummy" which means a poo is imminent, and often I think he prefered to continue to poo privately in his pants, tucked in a corner, rather than face the prospect of a publicly placed potty.

So, for him it wasn't just the sensation, but being confident enough to get his pants down and sit in a place that felt open. Bizarre, I know, but I don't think it's that unusual a problem, and now that I trust him to go into the loo, shut the door and get on with it, we're being more successful

Pruni · 06/11/2006 21:14

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