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Totally gobsmacked!

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Slinky · 12/04/2004 21:26

DD1 (8.5) has been at Brownie Camp for the last 4 days and I went to pick her up tonight.

Very excited to see her as I REALLY missed her (first time away for that length of time). Anyway, shove everything in back of car and she's gabbering away about everything they've been doing etc.

Driving along, she's chatting away about her new friends, including a 12yo Guide (packs of Guides/Scouts were there as well).

12yo Guide tells my DD1 that she's got a secret but wants to tell her. As DD1 and I "don't have secrets" she tells me the 12yo Guide is in love with a boy and they've starting sleeping together!!!!

Almost crashed the car I was so shocked !

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Soulfly · 12/04/2004 21:28

OMG! Thats abit young isn't it? I am gobsmacked. HOw olds the boy?

littlemissbossy · 12/04/2004 21:29

OMG!!! have they really, or was she just trying to sound cool in front of her friends?

tamum · 12/04/2004 21:30

Blimey, the Guides aren't what they used to be, eh?!!

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Soulfly · 12/04/2004 21:30

I didn't even know much about it at that age, geesh. Or even wanted to. i am totally speachless. I can't believe it.

Flip · 12/04/2004 21:32

OMG! I am so glad I have sons. I can say let the girls mothers worry about it. Only kidding. I wouldn't want my boys having sex at that age.

Did she use the term sleeping together or something else? I first slept with my boyfriend at ten but I was seventeen before I had sex for the first time. He would sneak into the tent when we went camping. When I was twelve words didn't always mean what adults thought they did.

Although I understand your shock. Lock her in a cupboard or something!

littlemissbossy · 12/04/2004 21:32

wasn't the guides motto "always be prepared" do you think she included protection with her d.i.y. first aid kit

littlemissbossy · 12/04/2004 21:33

sorry ... this is not funny if true

Flip · 12/04/2004 21:33

Maybe it was her pledged good deed of the day!

Flip · 12/04/2004 21:34

I can't believe how quickly kids grow up. It isn't funny. I remember all my friends laughing at me when I was eleven because I didn't know what an erection was.

It's terribly sad if it is true. I don't care how grown up kids think they are.

coppertop · 12/04/2004 21:35

OMG! I sincerely hope that "sleeping together" means something a little more innocent to a 12yr old. Did your dd understand what the girl meant by this?

BTW well done to your dd for not having secrets from you.

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Slinky · 12/04/2004 21:36

LOL - aye, Guides have changed since I went

She used the term "sleeping together" - DD1 doesn't know what "sleeping together" in the adult sense means I HOPE! So she wouldn't use that phrase in that context.

Told DH - he thinks that DD1 will have taken the term literally and that they both have had a little sleep together

Don't get me wrong, she does know where babies come from (in simple terms) but she wouldn't know that "sleeping together" means sex (unless the 12yo decided to elaborate further).

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hercules · 12/04/2004 21:37

Most 12 year olds know what this means.

hercules · 12/04/2004 21:38

and more.

Flip · 12/04/2004 21:38

Let's hope the 12 year old didn't elaborate further with your dd. An 8 year old doesn't need to know stuff like that. Hell a 12 year old shouldn't know stuff like that.

josiejump · 12/04/2004 21:42

In the past, I have helped with an organised camping trip for 10 and 11 year olds and the adults had to patrol all night to stop the boys and girls climbing into each others sleeping bags for cuddles ( and I'm quite sure that that's all it was!).

On the same sort of subject, I was very shocked when a five year old told me that I should sex my boyfriend before I married him!

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Slinky · 12/04/2004 21:47

Josiejump - re: 5yo that is so shocking and sad

This camp was well set up - the Scout Camp is set in 25 acres of land - with Scouts being right down the other end in tents.

The Guides and Brownies were in dormitories in the main building. I think the leaders must have been "on alert" for any funny business because the Guides woke the Brownies during one night and they all sneaked downstairs for "midnight feasts". DD1 said they had been there only seconds, when all the lights came on and the Guider in Charge was there

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samwifewithkid · 13/04/2004 11:44

This is very sad to read, when I was at brownie/guide camp the worst we got up to was a bit of giggling under the sleeping bag and maybe staying awake longer then we should.

This is one of the reasons I am a firm believer in being honest with kids when it comes to sexual conversations. If you don't tell them, someone else will get there before you do. If that happens to be another kid they could hear all sorts of wrong and mis leading information. It's a scarey world we live in now, and if this is true that 12 year old girls are having sex then we need to arm and educate them with as much info as possible so they can make the right choices. The more they know the less likely they are to have sex.

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Slinky · 13/04/2004 12:12

I've got no chance of finding out the Guide's parents.

This Scout Camp is huge and takes Guides/Brownies/Scouts from across the District - so it is more than likely that the Guide doesn't even live in this town.

I was chatting to my friend this morning about it, along with her 14yo DD. Her DD was saying that some of the stuff that goes on in the local High School would make your hair curl

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littlemissbossy · 13/04/2004 12:14

my dss tells me ALL that is going on at his high school - and it has made my hair go curly!

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