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Good baby/child book for sciencey parents?

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Anticyclone · 23/10/2014 10:54

Both DW and I are sciencey, engineeringy, mathsy, logical people.

We have a 2 month old PFB, and are both fascinated by the science and logic of child development - alongside the loving and nurturing side I should add!

Does anyone have any recommendations for baby and child books that might appeal?

So far been looking at "The science of parenting" by Margot Sunderland - Anyone read this one?

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cowbiscuits · 23/10/2014 14:46

There's one about child brain development from a neurological point of view that DH was reading. I think it might have been on his kindle though so I will asking him later, meanwhile, consider this a placemark, beause I'm intersted too, even though we're on our second.

NotCitrus · 23/10/2014 14:50

The Baby in the mirror - Charles Fernyhough. child psychologist has child and talks about her development and what is going on in children's brains as they try to figure the world out. Very readable.

The myth of Mars and Venus might also appeal.

TunipTheUnconquerable · 23/10/2014 14:51

How Babies Think by Gopnik and Meltzoff. You'll love it.

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Anticyclone · 23/10/2014 19:57

Great, thanks for the ideas. Just checked out baby in the mirror and how babies think on Amazon, and I think I'll order both! Just the kind of books I was after. Smile

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Geneticsbunny · 23/10/2014 20:00

There is one I saw a while back about experiments you can do on your child.

here

TrojanWhore · 23/10/2014 20:22

Not a book recommendation, but something which, if you're within reach of London, you might want to do.

www.cbcd.bbk.ac.uk/babylab

Sign your PFB up with the Birkbeck College's Babylab. They are sometimes looking for specific participants (they had a paid thread here only the other day looking for premature babies now aged 8+months) but often need 'control' age matched babies with no known issues.

Misty9 · 23/10/2014 21:12

Why love matters by Sue gerhardt is very neuro heavy, and fascinating. Her recent book, the selfish gene, is also good.

Anticyclone · 24/10/2014 08:07

Ooh I'd not even though of the experimentation idea! Actually we have a friend who's child has participated I'm a scientific study!

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Cric · 24/10/2014 08:14

The wonder weeks. It was written by a psychologist. There is an app you can download and then decide if you want the book from there.

d0ttyne11 · 24/10/2014 08:22

Excellent thread - marking my place for a couple of ideas for DH's stocking! He's particularly interested in this field as it relates to his work & research. Will start with looking for the child in the mirror.

d0ttyne11 · 24/10/2014 08:22

Opps. Baby in the mirror. Oh dear!

callamia · 24/10/2014 08:24

Why love matters is really brilliant. Also, definitely sign up to your local baby lab! Quite a few universities have infant researchers that would be happy to hear from you!

NotCitrus · 24/10/2014 09:35

There's Babylabs around the country - great fun, being able to geek about your baby's development with someone actually interested! Dd age 8 months loved watching some telly designed for age group, and helped show babies quickly learn to ignore 'unreliable' people who point randomly instead of to where an animal will appear.

drspouse · 25/10/2014 03:40

I'm not sure there's a lot of science in the Margot Sunderland book (awaits attack by fellow adopters who love it). I am also inclined to want to know "but WHY?" and couldn't get any back up for a few bits of her "evidence" so I didn't read further!

Misty9 · 25/10/2014 06:40

I agree with Dr about the margot book; I found it a bit basic too.

TheSkiingGardener · 25/10/2014 06:50

Another one backing Why Love Matters. It's an excellent book. We were fascinated by PFB's development too. If you're lucky enough (if you want one) to have a second child then that brings a whole new level of interest in the nature vs nurture elements of development as well as the difference in experience of an only child to one that has always known a sibling.

mipmop · 25/10/2014 08:03

This website
www.parentingscience.com

And Oliver James' "How not to f* them up, from birth to 3"
I can only do one link at a time on my phone.

mipmop · 25/10/2014 08:06

Here's the link to the Oliver James' book
www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/009192393X?pc_redir=1413037140&robot_redir=1

I also recommend the Margot Sunderland and Sue Gerhart books.

shaungallagher · 27/10/2014 14:21

I'm the author of a book that I think might be up your alley.

It's called "Experimenting With Babies: 50 Amazing Science Projects You Can Perform on Your Kid" (www.experimentingwithbabies.com).

I've taken published academic research in various fields of child development primitive reflexes, motor skills, cognitive development, language acquisition, social/emotional development, etc. and adapted them so parents can perform them on their own babies with no special equipment needed.

The experiments, which span from birth until age 2, are all completely safe, and along the way they teach you about the science behind your baby's development. I've road-tested many on them on my own kids, and it's a great bonding experience.

You may also enjoy some of the more science-oriented book recommendations I've posted on www.babyshowergiftbooks.com

Anticyclone · 06/10/2015 11:56

UPDATE - 1 YEAR ON!

Well, I'm re-animating this zombie thread almost one year after I started it! I have read a number of the books suggested by people (and one they didn't), and wanted to share my thoughts.

The Baby in the Mirror: A Child's World from Birth to Three by Charles Fernyhough
I did find many aspects of this book interesting from a developmental point of view. There is really good detail of how those vital first 3 years shape a child and the mental leaps the child must make over the course of that time. Although in some ways the "family story" narrative helped to ground the development of his daughter in time, I found it slightly distracting in places - especially the overly flowery language sometimes used to describe their time in Australia. I felt I wanted more details on the science and less on his and his daughters life. Never the less it is a good book, and a good starting point for me considering what was to come.

Why Love Matters: How affection shapes a baby's brain by Sue Gerhardt
There is no question that this is a book heavy on neuroscience. There is a lot of detail in certain chapters, but I think the author is just about able to balance this with anecdotes and case studies so that it doesn't ever get too dry for too long. There is some absolutely fascinating stuff in here, that is also bang up to date as the latest edition was updated in 2015. There is a lot to take in however so I may have to revisit it again in the future. One point about the book is that it tends to deal mostly with the effects on children who have been neglected to various levels of severity, it doesn't talk a great deal about typical, healthy babies and toddlers. However it is easy to infer from the writing that if certain things have gone badly wrong in some cases, how you should be doing the exact opposite to raise a happy healthy child. Definitely the most "sciencey" book of those I've read.

Diary of a Baby: What Your Child Sees, Feels, and Experiences by Daniel Stern
This is a book written by an early years psychiatrist in a very interesting format. He tries to imagine how a baby would record their feelings in a diary at various key developmental ages, 6 weeks, 4 months, 12 months etc. It's a quirky idea that he admits is going to be pure conjecture on some level, but is also based on his years of experience and the latest research. Although a bit less pure science than other books, I did enjoy reading his interpretation of how a baby might be feeling, and found that it gave me a slightly different insight into what might be going through a baby's mind at a particular stage of development. I think it might be a bit of a Marmite book, but I enjoyed it.

How Babies Think: The Science of Childhood by Alison Gopnik, Andrew Meltzoff & Patricia K Kuhl
This is the most recent book I've read and also my favourite. It has a really accessible style which takes you through science's understanding of how babies think and learn, and how important adults are in that process. Most of it is based around neurotypical babies and children and so is relevant to most people. I found myself permanently interesting in what the authors were saying, and never getting bored (which sometimes happened with the other books). There is a lot of comparison of brains with computers which appeals to my way of thinking, and of babies with little scientists. They even end up with some very tentative child rearing recommendations based on the science, which is interesting after having read through the bulk of the book beforehand which concentrates on explanations. If you are going to choose just one book, this is highly recommended.

Now to choose my next book to read! Smile

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Anticyclone · 06/10/2015 11:58

Oh, and I forgot to mention - we've been to Babylab three times in the last year and thoroughly enjoyed making a small contribution to scientific research. So thanks for the recommendation!

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meringue33 · 06/10/2015 12:05

Not convinced of the Oliver James book. As I recall he suggests gay kids are made so by parenting; also psychopaths are made because of mums going to work and leaving their babies in daycare.

lljkk · 06/10/2015 12:10

Babywatching, Desmond Morris (I think).

Fresh Milk.

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