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Age of night-time potty training?

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Gen35 · 15/05/2014 21:37

Dd is 3.5, we potty trained her at 2.5 and she has barely had an accident since. She's still in night time nappies as some nights they are wet - when did you push the night time training? We do make her go to the loo before bed.

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mumofboyo · 15/05/2014 22:18

With ds (who was 2.10 when potty trained) we did the day and night at a similar time - when he was dry during the day he was suddenly dry overnight too.

I read on here that it's something to do with a hormone and the kidneys that keeps them dry overnight and that it's not something you can teach them or that they can control - it's something that happens when their bodies are ready.

With ds, I knew he was ready to wear pants overnight when his nappy was dry several nights in a row and, upon waking, he took it off and had a massive wee in the potty. He also woke crying one night because he needed a wee; this was something he'd never done before.

I don't know whether it helps him stay dry or not, but he goes to the toilet before bed, has a potty in his room which he uses if he needs to before going to sleep and I wake him to take him for a wee when I go to bed.

Boomerwang · 16/05/2014 00:19

Watching this with interest, as my daughter is 2.2 and I don't know when to start potty training her. I have a potty ready for her but I have no idea how to introduce her to it since I can't tell when she needs a wee or poo?

kiwiscantfly · 16/05/2014 00:35

We started potty training at 3.1 and six weeks later went at nights too. Strangely she was more reliably dry at night than in the daytime to begin with.

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mumofboyo · 16/05/2014 08:46

Boomerwang when the nicer weather comes let your dd run around in the garden without a nappy and point out when she's having a wee. After a while (as far as I know this happens sometime between 2 and 3) she'll know when she's having a wee and then know when she needs one.

Keep the potty out, let her sit on it and play with it, let her watch you on the loo and keep using the language of, "I need a wee, I'm just going to the toilet," and she'll pick up that it's normal. There will probably come a point when she wants to use the potty and/or toilet too and just take it from there.

Gen35 · 16/05/2014 10:54

Hmmm I may leave it a bit longer as although she does a big ewe most mornings, there's still a few wet nappies. Don't want to leave it too late though!

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mrsmopps · 16/05/2014 20:13

DD was dry during the day from 2.10 and never had an accident. she was still pooing in pull ups until 3 months ago (she's 4.2) and wet every night,sometimes 3 times a night.
Tried to night train her at age 3 and again at around 3.5 but it was a nightmare, up to 3 wet beds a night for weeks on end until I gave in and put her back in pull ups at night..

About a week after she started finally pooing in the toilet she decided pull ups were for babies and she wasn't going to wear them at night any more.
She had a couple of wet beds, got up for the toilet a couple of nights and within a fortnight was sleeping all night and not shouting for the toilet at all.
I think they just do it when they're ready and I wish now I hadn't stressed so much about it all.

GoodtoBetter · 16/05/2014 20:16

You can't night train them, it's to do with a hormone that regulates urine production at night. They can't "learn" it. Just leave night nappies on until you've taken them off dry every day for a week or so.
DS trained in the day at 3 and was dry at night by 4.

Boomerwang · 20/05/2014 23:31

Is that really true, GoodtoBetter? I remember my mother using a wet bed alarm on me when I was a kid, but I must have been around 4 or 5. I remember the first night she turned it on and I weed on purpose to see how it worked and my god did I get a slap or six for that...

I do not want to pressure my daughter, I just wanted to know what the signs were that could tell me she was ready. Thank you for telling me about the dry nappies at night, that's clearly a good sign. Right now, that's when she's wettest!

scaredoflabour · 21/05/2014 22:24

My ds trained during the day at 2 1/2yrs. I was waiting for him to wake up dry but he was wet every night. When he turned 4 I decided to give it a whirl anyway. We had accidents most nights for the first 2 weeks, since then (3 weeks on) dry every night.

GoodtoBetter · 21/05/2014 22:31

As I understand it, the hormone levels change any time up to about age 7 and once they change then much less urine is produced at night. Also, they can't really learn as they are asleep. You can help by not letting them drink too much the hour or so before bed and making them do a wee before bed, but otherwise just wait. Leave nappies/pull ups on at night til you've taken them of dry every day for a week or so.
It's less stress all round. DS was dry during the day at 3 (and trained really quickly, within about 4 days) but not dry at night til 4.

Metalhead · 22/05/2014 08:12

DD was dry during the day from 2.5. I left her in pull ups at night until I was really sure they were dry every morning (hated the idea of lots of extra washing! Grin). Finally took them off sometime between 3 and 3.5 I think when she didn't want to wear them anymore. We had hardly any accidents at all! I agree with what others have said, wait until they're ready and it'll be much less stressful.

EasyTigeress · 22/05/2014 08:19

It's not something that I think can or should be pushed. Being dry at night is dependant on hormones. You'll find they will be dry when they are ready. I would suggest waiting till kids are waking with dry nappies for a week or two before ditching them but always have a stash just incase

pointythings · 22/05/2014 13:50

The general consensus is 7 consecutive dry nappies in the morning is a good sign that they're ready. PP are right, it is a purely physiological thing that you cannot train. Their bodies have to

  1. produce a hormone called vasopressin, which inhibits the production of urine at night,
  2. develop enough bladder strength and capacity to hold and
  3. develop the neural pathways which allow the message to get from bladder to brain and prompt brain to wake them up before they wee so that they can wake and go to the toilet/potty at night if they need to.

All these things take time and happen at different rates for different children. Some manage day and night time control simultaneously, in others the gap is much longer. My DDs were dry and independent in the day by 2.5, but DD1 was 4.5 before she was reliably dry at night and DD2 was 4.

odyssey2001 · 22/05/2014 13:55

I want to make it very clear, you CANNOT night train a child. They are either dry at night or they are not.

The only training you can do is to get them to wee in the potty/toilet when they wake up and not in their pants.

You can start doing this using pull ups as soon as they are potty trained but it doesn't mean they are ready to be dry a night.

Six dry nights in a week is a good sign they are ready.

Theyaremysunshine · 22/05/2014 13:56

Totally agree with pointy.

DS was dry day and night at 2.2. I was so surprised about the nights I kept him in pull ups for a month! Night training wasn't taught he just did it. He was just an early hormone producer! I was fairly surprised he was dry in the day too tbh but he seemed ready so we tried and he just got it.

Pure luck.

LizzieMint · 22/05/2014 13:59

Agreed you can't train them at night, it depends on the hormone production which concentrates the urine.
My Dd was 6 before she had dry nighttime nappies and my son was 6.5 (incidentally, boys tend to be later, there were at least 3 boys in my ds's class of 15 who still had/have nighttime pull-ups)
Wet nappies just stopped almost overnight, and once they were ready there were almost no accidents.
Dont rush it, there's plenty of time.

ShelaghTurner · 22/05/2014 14:00

DD1 has just come out of night time pull ups at 6. She was dry during the day at 2 and a half and has never had an accident. You just can't train at night time, only watch for signs of readiness.

Whereisegg · 22/05/2014 14:12

My ds is 7.5 and still not dry at night, I have a thread on behaviour and development about it that's full of advice from various posters if anyone wants a read.

We have just bought him an alarm which we will start using fri night, as it's half term.

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