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Powder or cream?

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amyfox · 20/08/2006 19:06

Since my baby was born, I have been using nappy cream during changes. I clean her up and then apply cream to her, before putting her in a nappy.

My friend doesn't though. She uses baby powder instead.

I just wondered which was best to use. Presumably not both - because cream+powder would create a nasty "paste", wouldn't it?

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alex8 · 20/08/2006 19:18

you don't need either unless they actually have a nappy rash. Powder is meant to be particulary bad according to my ante-natal classes as the babies can inhale it.

amyfox · 20/08/2006 19:19

Really?! I thought the cream was supposed to prevent nappy rash?!

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alex8 · 20/08/2006 19:20

Just make sure they are dry after you have cleaned them (you can use water and cotton wool which is much cheaper and better for your baby). Use a muslin or a small soft towel.

Powder is particuarly bad for girls too. There have been some links with ovarian cancer.

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alex8 · 20/08/2006 19:21

I never used any creams. My son got nappy rash but probably about 3-4 times in almost 3 years. And the very best stuff for that is metanium whcih clears it up almost instantly.

SoupDragon · 20/08/2006 19:24

Talc is bad for baby girls. I use a cornstarch based poweder but only after swimming/bath to dry in the huge rolls of fat on BabyDragon's legs! I don't use anything as a rule after nappy changes unless there's a problem. Waitrose's bottom butter is divine though!

alex8 · 20/08/2006 19:26

My brother bought this one for me in America called butt paste

SoupDragon · 20/08/2006 19:29

hehehe. Quality product name!!

amyfox · 20/08/2006 19:31

So no-one uses powder or cream to actually prevent nappy rash?

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alex8 · 20/08/2006 19:33

I'm sure loads do but its just not necessary. (well maybe for some but not everyone) Save your money!

makesachange · 20/08/2006 19:52

Hi,

If you are using disposable nappies, nappy cream can actually clog up the pores of the nappy and reduce their effectiveness. Therefore it should be avoided unless your baby is sore.

If you are using washable nappies then nappy cream won't affect them in the same way. However, again it is unnecessary unless they actually have a rash.

Remember that it's poo and wee mixed together which causes most nappy rash so keeping your baby clean and dry is the most important thing. Nappy wipes are dreadful as they almost always contain alcohol which is drying, and they are made from plastic which is why they're not flushable - yet more waste in the environment.

I strongly recommend plain water on cotton wool, or fleece or terry squares (wash them with your nappies if you're using cloth). Alternatively, try Ellie Smellie Wipes which are wetted with aloe vera, tea trea and lavender and made from paper, so flushable (and the manufacturer makes a donation to an AIDS orphanage in South Africa for every pack sold!).

Powder can be useful for some babies from time to time, especially if they're very wrinkly, but really leaving them to dry naturally is much better. It's certainly not something I would recommend using every day as it can be inhaled by your baby - not good.

I personally like Bepanthen as a sore bottom barrier, especially when the skin is extremely sore and/or has broken down. Burts Bees diaper cream is nice for unbroken skin which is a bit red. Canestan cream is a life saver when the attack is caused by thrush (check with your GP or health visitor).

Finally, silk bourette liners popped inside a nappy (dispie or cottie) works magic when trying to heal a nappy rash (assuming the root cause, eg thrush, is being treated). Just take good care of them and hand wash them.

Hope this helps,
Emma
www.makesachange.co.uk/
The Organic and Fair Trade Baby Boutique

amyfox · 20/08/2006 20:55

Brilliant! Thanks for all your advice!

Amy x

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bobsmum · 20/08/2006 21:13

makesachange - I've noticed you giving excellent advice on loads of these threads. But you really can't use them as a platform for advertising your shop. However if you've paid Mumsnet the appropriate advertsing fee then please accept my apologies.

makesachange · 21/08/2006 12:35

Hi Bobsmum,

I know exactly what you mean - and am in the process of setting up advertising. As you may see elsewhere I was pretty upset to hear an article on the radio about MN and wanted to support it - so am doing in all the ways I know how! (Including paid-for as MN isn't going to pay it's Internet fees with advice...)

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teabelly · 22/08/2006 14:01

Makesachange - great advice - no pic of the silk liner coming up?? Also unfortunately just the wrong time for me - typical - dd has just healed after having had the most atrocious nappy rash brought on first by teething and made worse then by thrush - incidently even though I get thrush loads, I never knew babies could get it .

I agree that using a cream/barrier all the time won't prevent nappy rash as most is caused by not cleaning/drying baby properly after nappy changes, leaving them too long in a dirty nappy, teething and thrush. Incidentally besides obtaining the canestan, we tried all the usual remedies ...sudacream, bepathen, metanium (wonder cream for ds!) to clear the red raw bum dd had, but alas none worked - then on my mums recommendadtion we tried germoline and it healed in 2 days !!

ralusadajo · 22/08/2006 15:53

Hi
Have just read through all of your helpful bits and just wanted to ask: have use in the past huggies disposable nappies but this time round I have gone with Nature disposable (trying to do my bit for the environment) DS(11 months) has the most awful red skin from tummy to top of legs and little white spots with red surround dotted about, his skin is raw and bleeding on & off as well I have tried the old faithful metanium (it worked wonders the last 4 times) and its still awful. I have now resorted going back to Huggies and after 1 day his skin is so much better. Feel awful that I didn't do it sooner, awful that I am using Huggies after trying not too, do you think he reacted to something he ate, teething or those sorts of nappies are just not up to much? Everybody has a different opinion I know but would feel better if someone could advise either way

teabelly · 23/08/2006 09:20

Ralusadajo please don't feel guilty - hey you tried it, but at the end of the day you have to do what's best for your ds. Maybe he's reacting to the washing powder/solution the nappies are washed in?? Maybe they're reacting to his urine?? Maybe his skin reacts to having wet like that against him (disposables tend to draw wetness away, don't think washables are as effective)?? I just feel that if he's better now and happier, go with it and don't don't don't feel guilty

bobsmum · 23/08/2006 12:19

Teabelly - I think R was meaning she uses the Nature Boy/Girl disposables from the supermarket? They don't have the chlorine bleach that a lot of conventional disposables have and a lot less of the sodium polyacrylate gel too ( that's the sinister moisture absorber).

ralusadajo - sounds like your ds may have had thrush rather than just nappy rash - the white spots sounds that way. Only sonmething like Canesten would shift that I think - see your GP if it happens again.

It's unlikely to be your nappies - the only way to cut down/prevent nappy rash is frequent changing. THe type of nappy you use won't make a difference. It's the bacteria in the urine that irritates - not the wet - disposables will still leave the bacteria next to baby's skin even if it's dry.

If you want to try a different brand of more eco-friendly disposables then Moltex, Bambo Eco or Tushies would all be available onlione - some in Boots now too. All more ethically and environmentally produced with fewer scary chemicals in them next to baby's bottom. Moltex is compostable in a womery but won't biodegrade - better than nothing though

Hello Teabelly Junie btw ! I was Mcmudda, but I've switched back to my original name to see how it felt again

ralusadajo · 23/08/2006 19:06

Thank you for your comments, think I was having particularly guilty trip when I wrote it! (having read it back again today I sound v flaky) ds bottom is still a bit rashy so think I will be on the phone to the docs in the morning to get some canesten after I have finished beating myself up about tomorrow's crisis whatever it is...roll on september and back to school!! I will finish the huggies and then go back to my nature nappies now you have made me realise that its his bum not the nappies. Are you using any of the ones you mentioned? How have you found them? I have a friend heavily into cloth nappies abd she keeps trying to convert me but her baby looks like she is wearing a 3 day old nappy as soon as she is changed they seem very bulky so I am far from convinced.

bobsmum · 23/08/2006 23:00

Hi ralusadajo

I use Totsbots cloth nappies most of the time, but if I'm away for the weekend or haven't got the washing on in time (!) then I use the Moltex eco-disposables. If you do a Google, you'll find a lot of sites sell them - it's cheaper if you buy in bulk ie 3 packs at a time. Cost-wise I think they're comparable to the top of the range Pampers.

There are so many different types of cloth nappies out there now. They don't have to be bulky anymore - some are as slim as disposables, but probably more reliable (think about the difference between a paper plate and proper china dishes ). Loads cheaper too, even including washing costs - probably at least £7/800 saving compared to buying disposables, potentially more depending on what nappy you choose.

I prefer cloth because I know exactly what's sitting next to my baby's skin - I've washed it! I haven't been involved in the manufacture of a conventional disposable nappy and don't really want to be. Some of the chemicals still used now were banned some time ago in women's sanitary wear because of the potential risk of Toxic Shock Syndrome. Eurgh.

mumfor1standfinaltime · 23/08/2006 23:05

'Powder is particuarly bad for girls too. There have been some links with ovarian cancer'

Very tactfully written.

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