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Will my 17 month old ever eat? Im sure Ella Pouches did this....

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princesspants · 22/01/2014 10:58

My 17 month old DS is a NIGHMARE with food. He has a big brother and sister (6&4) who are brilliant healthy eaters but he is a real worry.

I always cooked fresh food for my first two and they got the odd commercial baby food, Usually Plum, on the run. They both ate well and still do. Will try stuff and eat fruit like it's a treat Wink.

Number 3 came along and I have moved to the sticks. The only decent (or what I thought was decent) baby food was Ella Pouches.

So I fed him with a mixture of home made and Ella. He quickly became very fond of Ella and started refusing all of my food. I was so fed up cooking big batches of baby food that I eventually was feeding him mostly Ella. The only thing he'd eat of mine was a tomato based stew but in hindsight it was because it would have sweetness with the tomatoes and sweet potato.

I talked to my friend about it and she said her DD was the same. She fed her DS on a mixture before Ella was around then her DD had both home cooked and Ella and became so fond of them she'd only eat Ella. She still doesn't eat at 2.5. She listed what she will eat (not much) and like DS, it has to be sweet.

I have since spoke to a further 3 mums who have found the same. Ella pouches resulting in children who won't eat anything except sweet. One mum told me she recently read something about how Ella make all of their food purposely sweet and this was resulting in eating issues in children.

I haven't seen this article myself but it is obviously true.

So, My DS will eat Porridge - only if drowned in honey. A small selection of fruit. Tomato based pureed food. Spaghetti Bolognaise. Toast. Pizza.

He is terrified of food that isn't on the list above. So Pasta, meat of any origin, fish, sandwiches, cheese, any vegetables (except sweetcorn), rice, soup and basically any normal solid food.

He gets hysterical if anything other than the small list given is placed in front of him. I never force him as I don't want to scare him further. Sometimes I gently show him by me taking a bite then put it to his lips. He clamps his lips together then comes forward letting his lips quickly touch the said food then jumps back in horror - utter horror.

The kids try to encourage and feed him but no.

I have taken him off formula as I was giving him this just because of the added vitamins etc but was hoping he'd eventually start trying foods himself. He only gets a wee cup of milk with his breakfast and a bottle at night (although I know he shouldn't by now).

He is also the most poorly child I have had. He shakes nothing and has started yet another bad cough. The other two have always been well so it just shows what a difference good food makes.

What drives me absolutely nuts is, if the kids come back from a party with party bags full of chocolate, sweets, cakes - He is on it!! Oh yes, he'd try any crap if given half the chance - how the hell does he know?? I don't feed him any chocolate of biscuits but he is willing to eat any of that.

Anyone been through similar and came to the other side?

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TarkaTheOtter · 22/01/2014 11:01

I didn't use them very much as they were expensive but I did notice that even the "veg" ones were actually fruit and therefore very sweet.

princesspants · 22/01/2014 11:08

Yes tarka that is true. I just used them if I was out of homemade or going somewhere so not often. It was then that he suddenly started refusing any of my food so Id start buying more without realising at first.

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GinSoakedMisery · 22/01/2014 11:09

DS3 had Ella pouches, he eats fine now, never had problems.If anything he eats healthier than his brothers as he will eat most fruit and vegetables, prefers them to sweets.

I do however have an 8 year old who had huge food phobias from weaning age (he has autism, reason for his phobia) and I know how tiring it can be when your child will only eat a small list of foods.

I'd suggest reducing the amount of pouches you give. When you do give your son the food he likes, also put a tiny amount of something else on the same plate. Dont encourge him to eat it, act as if it isnt there. He may surprise you and eat it or he may just throw it off his plate.

Does he feed himself? What is he like with finger foods?

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princesspants · 22/01/2014 11:20

gin I stopped the pouches months ago when I realised the sweet issue.
He is pretty rubbish with all finger foods. I put sausages in front of him last night and he acted like id dropped a grenade in front of him!
Can eat a plate of sweet corn by picking each one up in a pincer grip no problem with motor skills.

more No i fed him with a spoon. I have starved him a lot Grin. Yesterday he had his porridge, refused lunch and wasn't given anything except a few sips of water until dinner at 5. Very small offering of Sausages, carrots, peas and mash. Screamed like we were torturing him for 20 mins while we ate and ignored him. He threw most of it on the floor, tried nothing and that was it. Put back down, bathed, fed a bottle of milk and off to bed on nothing but a bowl of porridge.

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notso · 22/01/2014 11:26

I think it is unfair to blame the company. No-one makes people use Ella's food. We are all responsible for feeding our own children.
All baby food is subject to the same standards so they are all 'decent' enough for food that has a ridiculously long shelf life.
I agree they are quite sweet, my sons loved them but I found they were far too smooth even the supposed lumpy ones so stopped using them quite quickly.

TarkaTheOtter · 22/01/2014 11:32

I think you can blame them for being a bit misleading though. Just a quick look online shows that their purée named "red peppers, sweet potato and apple" is actually 78% apple and only 11% peppers and 11% sweet potato. For example.

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IndigoTea · 22/01/2014 11:55

I think Ella pouches are fab and are a life saver (just saying Smile)

notso · 22/01/2014 11:55

I assume that information is on the pouch for all to read though Tarka it doesn't take a degree to work out that pouch is going to be sweet. If I saw it I would wonder why red peppers usually sweet and sweet potato needs need apple in it.

Anyway the OP is virtually blaming Ella's for eating issues. I think to say that without evidence on a public forum is wrong.

DisneyAddict88 · 22/01/2014 12:01

all children are different so not really fair to compare to older siblings and blame the baby food company.

my 18 month dd has never eaten pouches or jars and ate fantastically till around a month ago. now she will only entertain certain foods - mostly sweet. however I just keep offering. lunch we tend to have lots of snacks which she can pick at. a few friends are experiencing the same thing so I believe its just a phase which will pass.

princesspants · 22/01/2014 13:00

Id love to be wrong. It's the old mothers guilt for feeding them to him - If only I had just had homemade and nothing else. If id been as saintly as I was with my first and he still didn't eat, it wouldn't bother me quite as much iyswim.
I did cook mainly and use them in running situations. Have a few of them with him being a third and one at school and one at nursery!

A vegetable/main meal pouch with 78% apple though - hmmm, still not impressed with them.

Ella aside - any help with the eating issue would be grand!

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princesspants · 22/01/2014 13:01

disney he has had no other phase - just lip clamping!

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princesspants · 22/01/2014 13:04

tarka why did you have to look online? Is that info not on the packet?

I didn't choose the veg ones for the same reason - why is veg with fruit?

I used just the spag bol, chicken with rice or chicken with sweetcorn, beef stew and lamb casserole. God knows why they were sweetened.

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FiscalCliffRocksThisTown · 22/01/2014 13:06

My DS was the opposite, only wanted to eat my home made purees. Until he refused them all around age 1 yr 3 months.

Then ate only banana, toast, scrambled eggs, ham,milk and pasta. For a bout a year or more!. I kept putting other food on his plate too, and we put no pressure on him, just put it there.

We must have come through at the other end as he is now 10 and eats most things.

But putting pressure on him did NOT work, I really had to educate DH and MIL on that. But he was never allowed to be rude about his food or throw it. Also, only pudding if reasonable amount of food eaten.

Very clear rules but not much pressure/coaxing/attention paying.

Took years (aaaaarggghhh) but it worked in the end.

TarkaTheOtter · 22/01/2014 13:16

princess I expect the info is on the back but I don't have any in the house so I looked it up.

fishybits · 22/01/2014 13:21

DD (2) had Ella's pouches. She eats anything and everything.

Try grating parsnip or apple into whatever it is you're cooking to add natural sweetness.

princesspants · 22/01/2014 13:27

fiscal Im so glad to hear that it gives me hope. Im very into nutrition and believe that nutrition = health so I can't quite believe how I've ended up here!

I suppose it might be that he himself is also naturally picky and this is new to me.

I know what you mean about the coaxing. My mum does it - grrr. Thanks x

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Dulra · 22/01/2014 15:25

It may not have anything to do with the pouches and just a "phase". I have an 18 month dd also my third child and she has only really had homemade stuff but last month she went through a phase that lasted for nearly the month of Dec where she was pretty much surviving on her porridge at breakfast and refusing most other foods it coincided with eye teeth coming through as well. I was getting really stressed about it cos so much food was going in the bin so I saw it is a sign to ditch the homemade pureed stuff and just start feeding her what her older sisters get and she loves it. So she eats chicken potato veg, omlettes, stews bolognaise, fish etc etc. It has also coincided with her refsuing to let me feed her so she figer feeds or uses a spoon bit of a messy affair but she is happy and stuffing her face.
Maybe just ditch the baby foods and also check and see whether any teeth are coming through because those eye teeth are a killer.

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