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Reusable nappy help

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Juno77 · 15/01/2014 15:25

I'm looking to get into the world of reusables nappies.

I've read reviews, looked on websites, read MN threads and I am confused. Can someone please help me with some recommendations, for what I would like?

I want washable nappies with disposable liners.
I don't think I want a special nappy washing basket (correct me if I am wrong)
I don't know how many to buy (how often do you change the outer part?

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DrSeuss · 15/01/2014 16:15

I would first decide if you want squares, which are cheaper and easy enough once you learn the folds, or pre folds. Try
www.thenappylady.co.uk/
For help.
When are you due? If I ever manage to train DD I may have some things for you!
No idea what the basket is! Never had one for either child.
Four wraps should do it.

Juno77 · 15/01/2014 17:45

In 2 months.

No idea what squares and pre folds are?!

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DrSeuss · 15/01/2014 17:50

Terry squares are the traditional nappy. You use different folds for different ages and for boys/girls. Pre folds look like disposables as they are shaped and need no folding. If you go to the web site I mentioned they will ask for your plans and make recommendations.
Two months? We might make it!

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HRMumness · 15/01/2014 18:45

Hi Juno, congrats on impending arrival.

The Nappy Lady site is great, there is a questionnaire you can fill out and you get a recommendation of what to buy and a discount code.

My DD is 18 months and we've almost exclusively used washables on her. We use a two part system - washable inner, with an outer wrap. We also have a paper liner between the washable inner and baby. Makes dealing with poo much easier as you can flush the lot (provided your plumbing is up to it). We use ultra liners fwiw.

It is worth getting a packet of disposables to deal with meconium poo. That stuff is like tar! For the first month or so, we used folded muslins and motherease wraps. I think we had 40 muslins and 4 wraps. This was plenty. We change the wraps once a day or if they get poo on them. I don't think it is worth getting the shaped nappies for newborns as you don't get much wear out of them.

Once she was big enough, DD went into Totsbots Bamboozles stretchies, size 2 and then a Motherease wrap over top. The coloured ones still look nice after 18 months use. I bought 12 initially but found I would run out or they wouldn't dry in time so I bought another 5. Not have problems since really. Velcro on the wraps is good when they are small but doesn't wear well, poppers are also harder for them to pull off (which they will do!). Oh and you will probably need at least 3 boosters for night time use. Once the baby sleeps through, they shouldn't need a change unless they poo. Adding a booster will give enough absorbency to last the night. Fwiw, the few times we've used disposables overnight, my dd has wet right through them. They just don't have the absorbency IMHO.

You will need a nappy bucket and at least two wash bags. The wash bag sits on the bin which makes transferring to the machine easy. Get a proper nappy bucket otherwise wherever you keep the bucket will stink. You don't need to soak the nappies either.

The other thing worth buying is washable wipes, we bought a 40 pack and store them in those little brick ikea containers. It's worth plumping for the bamboo ones. I bought cotton and they haven't aged well. We also bought some coloured ones for hands and face wiping. Pop in brights do nice ones and you get a free little bag to keep them in. Having the different kinds makes it easy - one for nappy wipes, one for hands and faces, no mixing them up.

The last thing you need is a bag to carry the dirty nappies in if you plan to use them out. I did use disposables when out for awhile, then bought some all in ones to use when out but I found the ones I had bought (bumgenius) didn't have enough absorbency so have switched back to using the totsbots when out.

HRMumness · 15/01/2014 18:55

One more thing, our routine is get DD up, change her nappy including wrap and then do a wash straightaway. Once the washing is done, they are either hung outside or hung inside next to the radiator. This gives the nappies a whole day to dry and I will fold the previous lot while the washing is on. Having a routine really helps with keeping it manageable. I know a lot of people want to use nappies but end up not being arsed.

Best bit is now Dd is a little older, she helps unload the machine and passes me the nappies to hang out.

FurryGiraffe · 15/01/2014 19:19

I second disposables for meconium- last thing you want to do in new baby fog is figure out how to wash that off! Also two sets of washable wipes one for bum and one for hands.

We also used bamboozles, but we bought size 1s to start and then moved on to size 2s when DS was about 7 months. He's 25th centile though- if you have a large DC you might not get as much wear out of them. They were nice and slim though so we haven't had a problem getting normal trousers over the top of them (my worry if we'd gone straight into larger ones). I also have some microfiber little lambs a friend gave me. They dry fast but they're much bulkier and absorbency is rubbish.

We started out with paper liners but I found them pretty pointless- they ruck led up so there was wet paper stuck to DS (looked uncomfy) and BF baby poo is so runny it didn't stay on the liner. Switched to fleece liners which keep poo off nappy much better and wick moisture away so there's effectively a dry layer between DS's bottom and wet nappy. I was v anti fleece liners pre DS- thought they'd be messy and faffy but I'm a complete convert Smile

Nappy buckets- yy to two liner bag things. I have a totsbots bucket which has clips to hold the lid on which is essential now DS is mobile...though he'll probably work out hoe to undo the clips at some point !

HRMumness · 15/01/2014 19:24

Giraffe - we tried to use the fleece but found DD came up in a massive heat rash from then so went back to paper. Also DH was not keen on trying to get poos off them at all, me neither if I'm honest.

Juno77 · 15/01/2014 20:17

Oh god I find this all overwhelming.. Maybe reusable a aren't for me!

I've done the nappy lady website survey so will see what they say.

Thanks everyone

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FurryGiraffe · 15/01/2014 20:27

HR- your poor DD :( Sorry if I sound a bit evangelical about them, I just found for us they were a huge improvement (and I was v sceptical and not keen on the poo removal but actually find it fine).

HRMumness · 15/01/2014 22:41

Juno - it sounds much more complicated than it is, promise. Do you have any friends IRL that use washable nappies that can talk you through it? Some baby stores that stock things might be able to do that if not.

maillotjaune · 15/01/2014 23:00

Juno I used them for DS3 and was furious with myself for not having done so with the first 2. Was much easier than expected.

Nappy Lady was excellent, I was very happy with the recommended nappies which really did meet my requirements (no tumble drier here).

I got reusable wipes and everything. And a bucket with a lid. Honestly, I was feeling overwhelmed when I started reading up on it too but it was fine.

delasi · 16/01/2014 16:52

Hi Juno and congrats! I considered reusables whilst pg, then went totally against them as the info out there is overwhelming. Now full time cloth (DS just turned 13mo) and it's great, cheaper, no more difficult than disposables and I plan to cloth nappy with future DC (extra cheap as I'll be able to reuse a lot of DS' stuff!).

Some tips/info:

  • disposables for newborn will be easier because of meconium and small size fittings.
  • Nappy Lady questionnaire helps.
  • you will need a nappy pail. I actually tried several options (don't ask why, it was a silly mistake!) - trust the reviews! Tots Bots lockable pail with Tots Bots mesh liner is the best. Can throw mesh with nappies in straight into washer, pack of 2 means 2nd one goes on straight away whilst the other is washing with the nappies.
  • a lot of people like paper liners. I thought I must have them, but I actually prefer fleece liners. They catch poo better (for us), cheap, and no extra washing as they just go in with everything else. Poo rolls off easily, even diarrhoea/runny poos, quick rinse by flushing the toilet whilst shaking for the worst poos (very infrequent for us now). If you bf, as I understand bf poo is water soluble so even less of a concern for washing.
  • the main brands I came across repeatedly were/are: Bumgenius, Motherease, Little Lambs, Tots Bots.
  • most councils have a scheme; in my area you get a £54 voucher towards reusable nappies and accessories, I know others where you get a trial pack, a different voucher etc. Google the name of your council and 'reusable nappy'.
  • Google your area and 'nappuccino' - these are events where they give info, you can ask questions, and look at and hold reusables. They usually have dolls/bears to practise on too! These events will often tell you about the council scheme and any local nappy libraries. Plus any local nappy shops; the shops are usually very happy to explain the different options to you and some also hold their own events and demos.
  • it doesn't have to be all or nothing, or jump right in from the start. You can get just a few bits, and once the newborn fog lifts slightly you could try one a day, see how they are. I was surprised at how quickly we got used to the reusable - took us max. 1 week to get into the swing of things, after 4 weeks I felt like an old pro!

There are a lot of different types of nappies, but it boils down to simply what you feel you would like and trialling it. I liked the idea of a wrap - so we have a waterproof outer covering (the wrap) which we then insert with fabric (either a nappy, as in cloth that goes on and attaches the same as a whole nappy but has no waterproof bit built in, or inserts, which we just put in the wrap. They don't fall out as there are 'flaps' in the wrap that keep it all together prior to putting it on DS). I liked these as they were generally cheaper, quicker to dry, and more variety for what I could stuff them with. What we have is known as birth to potty - basically the wraps have 3 rows of poppers, the smallest setting for when they're little and then can be expanded as they grow. DS is long and currently on the middle setting, the waist is still quite narrow, so there is a lot of growing room in them.

You can also get all in ones - basically you use it a bit like a disposable, everything is already contained in the nappy and you just put it on and go. When you change the baby the whole thing goes in the nappy pail. Pocket nappies are similar to all in ones, but they have a little opening so you can stuff them with whatever you like (think: pitta bread!), but it means drying is quicker as there is less bulk to dry when separated. You can get birth to potty (as above) or sized, which is a bit more tailored to certain weights. They still cover a large age however, as most nappies are size 1 or 2, with some 3s around.

Personally, we have the following:
10 Bumgenius Flip wraps
21 Flip Stay Dry inserts (this is already the size of the wrap and you just put it in as is)
6 Organic Night inserts (this is similar to a prefold, ie a thick square of fabric, it has lines sewn in to make folding easier, normally I just fold in 3 and stick it in the nappy. This is more absorbent, eg for long journeys, night times)
3 Tots Bots Bamboozle nappies size 2 (8-30lb, apparently) (this is a whole nappy, very absorbent, I put it on DS and put the Flip wrap over the top to keep it waterproof. I use these at night as he has just started becoming a heavier wetter at night)
5 Little Lambs 3 layer bamboo boosters (this is like a pad you put in the nappy/wrap, to increase absorption. I use it when we go out as sometimes we have to go longer between changes depending on where we go)
Total cost somewhere in the region of £200-23, less the £50 voucher from council means we have spent about £150-180 ourselves. A year of disposables cost us at least £250 so we're already saving, even more for future DC.

I change DS roughly every 3 hours, he goes 12-13 hours at night without leaks.

It looks like a lot, but here's something else to consider: have you ever read the boards and the constant 'which disposable to use?' debate? We trialled so many brands and wasted so much money before we even found a disposable that worked for DS! And once you have the disposable that's it really. You can't increase its absorportion, or poo containment - with reusables you get better results. DS could only manage in Pampers Baby Dry, day and night. Everything else leaked and/or chafed. Minimum £20/month on nappies, and that was getting a really good deal. He would still often leak at night, and runny poo always leaked. Just had a mega bout of teething (which always results in diarrhoea with DS) and not a drop of poo escaped our Flip wraps!

Sorry that I wrote so much Blush But wanted to share the different bits of info that I have. Really don't stress about it - go to a nappuccino, take your time, ease yourself into it, and it will suddenly be much easier. Even if you used reusables for a bit, and changed your mind, the resale value is great (even better if you got them free from council!), and it would have been no more expensive than using disposables for that time. Nevertheless, most people stick with cloth!

delasi · 16/01/2014 16:59

Sorry, a few typos in there Grin Was also going to say that we do a wash every 3 days, 60C, dry on an airer, Bamboozles go on the heated towel rack as they take longer to air dry. You don't need to use a lot of detergent, in fact it is advised against; we currently have liquid detergent and we put something like 40-50ml (using the plastic cap that comes with it) in the wash. Everything comes out lovely and clean, no stains, no smells. I throw in any odd 60C bits at the same time, eg towels, bedding, microfibre cloths.

delasi · 16/01/2014 17:12

PS (sorry...Blush) I bought pretty much everything from babipur, they were a great help - responded quickly to questions I had as to whether certain things would fit in the Flips - despatched really quick, and they always have a 10% off code or similar (you usually get one for your next order when you buy from them). They also accept council vouchers if your council does them.

The number of inserts we have are beyond what we actually need for 3 days, I just decided to be extra careful Grin We use Flips with poppers, not Velcro; like another pp said, they wear better with time and also are much harder for toddlers to whip off!

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