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CIO + ill + teething, have I blown it?!

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Mummybo · 17/12/2013 06:34

Hi everyone,
DS is 8 months and We started CIO 4 nights ago, night 1 had 3 lots of crying for up to 25 mins (we go in and comfort him at intervals but do not pick up or feed).
Night 2 had 3 very small cries lasting under 5 mins and did not need to visit him.
Night 3 had just 1 5min cry at 9pm and that was it, so feeling very pleased with ourselves!
BUT yesterday he had snot up to (and in) his eyebrows AND cut a new tooth, he was waking up every hour and was so upset I couldn't not pick him up so I fed him and gave him calpol, but he really didn't want anything in his mouth :-( so got him out of bed for calpol / boob / cuddles twice in total but put him back in his cot when he was asleep (he used to co sleep).
we were doing so well with CIO and HV said to go for it wether he was teething or not as he would be for about a year anyway! But I couldn't leave him when he was ill as well, and feel strongly that I should use my instincts in these situations, not just sit there with a stop watch!
Anyway, was wandering if this has happened to anyone else in early stages of CIO and how much it set them back?
It seemed to work pretty quickly for us first time round and I still managed to get him back in his cot last night so am hoping we won't have to start from scratch....

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MinesAPintOfTea · 17/12/2013 06:41

Ignore your hv, go to your baby when he's crying for you. He's only little and doesn't understand where you are, especially when he's ill or in pain.

lanbro · 17/12/2013 06:43

Ime even after illness or teething you can get back into a good sleep pattern without starting from scratch with cc. Basically you're teaching him to self settle which will stay with him. Try not to worry, sleeping in his cot is a good sign, and of course you're not going to ignore him if he is in pain!

Btw prepare for some negative replies, cio is very controversial although it is something that has worked for me!

sewingandcakes · 17/12/2013 06:44

Pick him up and cuddle him if that's what your instincts are telling you. He's not being manipulative; he has a need that he's communicating.

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Melonbreath · 17/12/2013 08:06

Wait until he's better before starting again. Cio should be thrown out the window when they're ill/in pain.

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tomatoplantproject · 17/12/2013 08:13

I agree wait until he's better. When dd isn't very well (and when she started nursery and so v unsettled) we are more lax and it doesn't take much to get her back into her previous patterns.

TheCrumpetQueen · 17/12/2013 08:24

I've been through the same, did gentle sleep training successfully the his side teeth came through and he got a horrible bug.
Now he's gone back to needing being rocked to sleep, so I'm slowly going to ease him back into self settling.

TheCrumpetQueen · 17/12/2013 08:25

You did the right thing. Imagine if you had a toothache and were ill, you would want a cuddle too :)

clairikins · 17/12/2013 09:45

CIO should be thrown out of the window. Whether or not the child is sick. You're not teaching him to self settle. You're teaching your child that no one will come no matter how long they cry

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Mummybo · 17/12/2013 10:15

@clairikins I do go to him when he cries, what an incredibly uninformed and judgemental response.

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Mummybo · 17/12/2013 10:22

Thanks everyone, tbh every 4 hours and going back in his cot is brilliant compared to what he was like a week ago, and considering he's unwell. Hopefully we can ease him back in when he's better.

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Melonbreath · 17/12/2013 10:46

Clairikins, that is NOT what cio is. You don't leave them to cry indefinitely, as that I agree, would be cruel.

MinesAPintOfTea · 17/12/2013 11:26

That is what "Cry It Out" is. By definition. Of course some people get mixed up with Controlled Crying where you keep going back in and resettling, but CIO is leaving the child to cry until they give up stop and go to sleep.

mumofboyo · 17/12/2013 11:45

In my (limited to just 2 children) experience sleep is fluid in that lots of things can effect the quality and quantity. Thinking of my own dc, they generally slept (and still do sleep) very well but teething, illness, temperature, noise and any daytime excitement can cause disruption and nighttime disturbances but these are normally short lived; once they are better/the tooth has come through/it's not quite as hot or cold/Christmas is over then, providing we keep to their routine as much as possible and offer as much love and reassurance that they need, they go back to sleeping 7-7.

minipie · 17/12/2013 12:20

Everyone: The OP is actually doing CC not CIO. She is going in at intervals to comfort.

Either way OP I would leave it till after teething/illness as everyone says.

I have done CC a few times with DD, the first time definitely took longest but later times much quicker so I don't think you would be starting from scratch.

Be prepared that you may have to re do CC (although for less time as I say) after each round of illness/teething, as he'll get used to being comforted and will expect the same once the illness is gone... the difficult part is knowing when he is definitely not ill any more and you can do CC again.

BTW there are a lot of vehemently anti CC/anti CIO posters on MN so any post on this topic will get lots of "oh just comfort your baby CC is evil" responses.

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