Please share your 17wk old's ( or thereabouts!) routine/pattern.

[AmIGoingMad]

Dd is coming up to 17 weeks and I'm finding getting her to nap impossible. This is made more difficult by a lovely but noisy older brother. It also makes life with him more difficult as I feel that at least is she napped, I could spend some quality time with DS and dd wouldn't end up overtired and screaming!!!

If I try to leave him he just seems to get increasingly frustrated and keeps us both awake! I should probably try leaving him a bit longer but conscious of DH having work!

Not sure about the sickly thing sorry. Dd has been a bit more sicky recently but I think that's because she has a bit of a cough and is struggling to clear throat although the docs have said its nothing I do think it might be making her sicky.

I'm with you in being worried about leaving her for long and waking everyone up. But it might be the only way.

She's in a sleeping bag but I think that I might also add a blanket as its getting colder here.

I had thought we were disturbing him at night too and had wondered about moving him in to his own room, but for me I don't think I'd be comfortable with that yet - at least when I wake up now I can check him.

I think the "milk not being enough" can be a bit of an old wives tale sometimes. It is quite old fashioned advice (my mum said the same thing to me last week) - as is the baby rice. Not to say it won't be right for him, especially with other things going on (like reflux), but it's quite common for no sleeping or a regression At this age. I have also heard a drop in milk consumption is common as this is when their weight levels out.

That being said, they are all different and I do have a box of banana porridge sitting on my side ... Waiting ...

When we leave him, he does sometimes wake us all up ... But that is sort of what we signed up for when we had a baby and if the HV is right then them learning to self soothe could be a godsend.

How was last night for everyone?

Pretty decent night last night considering she had awful cough- been back to dr today and it hasn't gone to her chest (ds's has) but we have nasal drops for before feeds and before bed.

She did end up in bed with DH and I was in with DS to look after him so last night probably wasn't a true picture!

With DS we started weaning at about 5 1/2 months and think we'll do the same this time as she seems happy enough other than with napping! Like you say we're all different though.

Glad to hear it was ok.

Ours was too ... But just had an hour long screaming match, which he fell asleep mid-scream. Mumsnetting whilst he sleeps on my lap as I daren't put him down. He is shattered.

Last night was a bit better - no wake ups til 4ish but he had his last lot of jabs so usually sleeps afterwards!

We tried baby rice on a spoon and he was unimpressed! Have been reading up on adding it to milk but am a bit paranoid aft some things I've read now! I wouldn't be giving it to him to get him to sleep though, it would be for reflux. .

Is normal for this 4 month regression to start so early though? He's not 4 calendar months til tmw, was 17 weeks Monday!

I think its pretty normal. Was he overdue at all? I only ask as I heard somewhere on here that development weeks in the early days can be in relation to due date. Seems odd to me as I'm quite dubious of the whole due date thing but maybe something in it?

Well after a good night we're having a day from hell!!! They must be soul mates lockie- currently on mn on phone while dd sleeps on my lap having just given in mid scream!

No he was 5 days early! Sat would be 17 weeks since his due date..it's interesting milk consumption was mentioned as well actually as he seems to have plateaued in the amount he's taking in the past few weeks and we expected it to keep gradually increasing!

My ds' milk consumption has plateaued for a few weeks too, since the last growth spurt really. I think the regression is around 19 weeks but ... They haven't read the manual and it can be a few weeks early or late. Same as all other milestones I guess.

ami they must be! We got an amazing 2 hour nap this morning! He woke about every 10/15 minutes and I patted/rocked/paced with him each time until back to sleep. Totally un feasible normally ... But we had the luxury today.

Well so much for the due date theory!
Milk had plateaued here too until last night/ this morning as have been up to fed twice instead of the once its been for weeks and weeks! I have a feeling there's another 'interesting' day ahead of us!

Hi

My dd will be 16 weeks on Monday & like some of you I have older DS who will be 4 on Wednesday.

We follow waking usually at 7 but sometimes from 6, occasionally before & from there it's approx 3 hour feeds but most importantly naps after 1.5-2 hours.

In last 2 weeks I've found I must get her to nap in cot as she'll wake with noise & so not fair on ds to be quiet. When she gets tired I tell DS I'll be back soon & let him watch tv then take her to our room walking slowly & patting her bum while shushing then put mobile on (quiet soothing rainforest setting on fisher price one), draw curtains & maybe sway a little more before putting her in cot. Sometimes she'll feed to sleep & I'll put her in cot.

I find her easier than DS was so far but I defo think they need quiet wind down time rather than being plucked from activity & put in cot or wherever, like calling last orders at the pub ;)

For those who don't like cot or pram, could you try putting them in when they're not tired & fairly happy for a little while & talk to them while in it? Not sure if this would confuse them though as to what cot etc is for.

Mine seems unsettled since the clock change too!o

Just out of interest, how many oz did your DC's plateau at? 29, 30 oz here

Yeh, it's pretty much 30oz here too. How odd!

evelyn glad you are having napping success! Ds loves the cot and pram when he isn't tired lol he will wake up on a morning and happily play in there for twenty minutes. It's when he is tired he hates it, he is such a fighter. The cot, mobile, curtains thing you mention does tend to work for his first nap of the day, but we only get 15-30 minutes out of him.

hi to other july mums. j is currently post jabs and out of sorts' he often refuses to nap and I can really relate to the overtired screams. its not always worked but at around 14 weeks I was able to get him to nap in his cot by putting him in after a feed when he was starting to get tired but not yet overtired and putting up one of those fabric cot books for him to look at' then shut the blinds and hed sleep for maybe 45 mins...worked a treat for one week and not again since but still think cot book is worth a try

I am feeling at the end of my tether today. He had a good night, woke at around 7.30, had a 30 minute nap around 9 and then nothing. So so tired but nothing would get him off, screaming when I put him down (normally wouldn't do it but thought it was worth a try), just had an hour long screaming fit (his not mine) where he got himself so worked up ( fell asleep mid scream) that he is still heaving and sniffing in his sleep.

Need to break this cycle but no idea where to start. Feeling a bit hopeless !

Don't feel bad! This napping things is bloody hard work!

We're even more disruptive as little one is ill too now- had to go to hospital this weekend.
And still she can only nap on me bless her. Which I'm going with more than normal at the moment but I have another dc to fed, help go to the loo etc. not easy!

Lets take deep breaths and say it together... this too will pass.

Aw I hope she is ok????

Yep, I know it will pass, just feel so sorry for him - getting in to such a state all the time, what a horrible way to sleep.

She's coping really well thanks. I have to monitor feeding and keep a close eye on her generally.

She's currently asleep on me while DS watches tv cuddled up with us. It's not practical at all but such a cute lovely moment until the mayhem starts again!

Think for now throw practically out of the window and just enjoy the cute, lovely snuggles