3 day old on continual cycle of Breast feed then sick routine

[kernow13]

Hello
Please can anyone give advice?? 3 day old breast feeding ok, just perfecting latch on. Problem is she vomits up lots after every feed & then is hungry and wants immediate feed again. Secondly this tends to happen all through the night. She sleeps a lot of the day. Saw midwife today who advised she is getting a good supply of milk from me, but I am getting tired & sore huge hard breasts & an upset baby. Any tips?
She hates being put in Moses basket too, possibly as she is on her back? We have tilted it but she only seems to settle by being held upright.....thanks for reading:)

Princess, be careful with how you interpret the data. Now smoking is a factor in 9 out of 10 SIDS deaths. Because putting babies to sleep on their tummies is advised against.

But in 1984 smoking was only a factor in 57% of SIDS deaths.

Because back then, putting babies to sleep on their front was far more prevalent, before the Back to Sleep campaign.

www.nhs.uk/news/2007/October/Pages/Smokingandriskofcotdeath.aspx

Even if you are a non-smoker you shouldn't be blasé about putting babies to sleep on their front.

Thank you for the kind wise words of advice:)

Thank you for the kind wise words of advice:) the sick / feed routine has calmed down now & she is putting on weight & getting plenty of wet & mustardy dirty nappies. The problem now is she is still having latching on problems (difficulty latching & then sliding off the latch & biting down on me) causing cracked bleeding nipples. I also now have some mastitis as got too much milk that isn't being drunk! Midwife said baby has slight 'tongue tie' which will make latching harder but not enough to warrant surgery (not that I'd want that anyway). Am expressing off some milk to ease breasts & using frozen peas to cool post feed. Worried how long this pain & hardness will last. Also worried expressing may make too much milk production. Anyone else gone through this & come out other side?? Am considering whether to switch to expressing & bottle feeding, but don't really want to yet....

In response to the earlier posts, she doesn't appear to have reflux & isn't distressed during or after feeds, she just falls asleep after being sick. I think it could be due to trapped wind and/or my fast let down of milk. Tilting moses basket really has helped. I wouldn't consider putting her to sleep on her front due to the data on this & she would end up laying in her sick too.

Hi Kernow. Glad that the sick-y ness has calmed down. Re the expressing, as long as you are only expressing a little bit to relieve your discomfort, it shouldn't increase your supply.

I would also point out that moving to expressing & bottle feeding gives you the bad points of both breastfeeding & bottle feeding! If you can bear to continue direct feeding it will settle down. Your baby is, I think, still less than a week old? Breastfeeding is still getting established and your supply will need to settle down.

I had a hard time getting bfeeding going and had nipple bleeding, pain etc. I needed to express and bottle feed for a day or so to give my nipples a chance to heal. It doesn't mean you have to carry on with expressing.

Also as baby grows, they get stronger and larger and the latch can improve.

If your mw thinks there's a slight tongue tie, it's worth getting a second opinion. From what I've read on here the "surgery" is a very minor event, but can make a massive difference. I wouldn't write it off.

So it works going onto express & bottle for 1-2 days to heal & back to exclusive breast? That gives me hope. I thought it may lead to confusion for baby & worse latching on. Thanks:)

Two of my three had tongue ties. It does lead to painfulfeeding. As 'operations' go, it is very simple and straightforward. The midwife got a pair of scissors and snipped the tie in seconds. Yes my babies cried but they were very easily soothed and it made breastfeeding so much easier and more comfortable.

Well, taking a short break from direct feeding worked for me. My ds was always crap at latching so I didn't notice any worsening! We did use the Medela Calma bottles/teats which are meant to mimic the breastfeeding action, and reduce any potential for confusion. (There are other similar systems I think as well as this brand).

When my nipples were healed ok, I was then militant about de-latching and re-latching the minute it hurt or felt wrong. Even if it meant doing it 20 times a feed. Eventually his latch improved. I'm still feeding him now at 15 months.

Cabbage leaves from the fridge in your bra might help with the engorgment more than frozen peas.

Agree you should get a second opinion re tongue tie, baby sliding off and biting isn't a minor issue.

Hope you are using Lansinoh on your poor nipples, it's the best.

Exbrightonbelle & noble giraffe many thanks. Am expressing for couple of days until I heal. Agree lansin

Exbrightonbelle & noble giraffe many thanks. Am expressing for couple of days until I heal. Agree lansinoh is great:) btw should cabbage leaves be used raw - can u tell I am novice at this? Never had these problems with first baby feeding!

Here's advice on how to use cabbage leaves

www.babymed.com/baby/cabbage-postpartum-breast-engorgement

There does seem to be some evidence to say it works, not just an old wives tale!

oh definitely get the tongue tie snipped! Well I would anyway. dd was exactly as you describe, sliding down the nipple. It got worse not better as she got older, any growth spurt and I was in agony at every feed and she was frustrated as she couldn't feed for long enough. Getting it snipped (at 16 weeks) made so much difference, feeding became a breeze and she was so much less windy, slept better, and was able to feed much more in one go. Wish we'd done it earlier. The snip is over in seconds. Also I have read that untreated tongue ties can lead to problems at weaning and speech issues, and it's much harder to have it cut when they are older than now.

Really, get it done, or at least get it seen by a surgeon who snips tongue ties - the surgeon won't do it if he/she doesn't think it's necessary anyway.