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no evenenigs and broken sleep please help

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Rileyrubenreagan · 12/07/2013 21:58

ds is 1y ive tried everything, he is dc 3 so ive been round the block. routine goes like this.
7am wake
7.30 breakfast porrige and fruit
9.30 sleep 30-40mins
10.15 snack fruit
12 lunch veg rice and pulses
1 sleep 1hr
2.30 snack
4 sleep 20 mins
4,30 toast and nut butter
6,30 sweet pot and falafal, beans
7 bath
7.30 bed
refuses to go to bed scrreams in cot ive tried ssh pat, going in every couple of mins, tried cuddleing to sleep nothing works so i bring him out put him in playpen to wear himself out further. im a single parent now so knackered
10pm finally sleeps wakes at 2 and 5 for a few ounces of milk only sleeps in my bed which i dont mind after 2 would like him to sleep at the start of the night in cot so when he eventualy sleeps through hes in the right place.
hes definatly overtired ive tried putting him down at 6.30 he just wakes up an hr later. please please help i need to work on the computer in the evenings

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DoItTooJulia · 12/07/2013 22:04

Does he have milk at 7.30?

SoulTrain · 12/07/2013 22:09

I would try him with a longer sleep at lunch and knock the 4pm kip on the head, also consider a half hour earlier bedtime.

SoulTrain · 12/07/2013 22:10

Sorry, I've just seen you have tried him earlier...knock the 4pm nap on the head and aim for a longer lunchtime sleep.

Does he naturally sleep for 20 minutes at 4pm?

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LoveBeingUpAt4InTheMorning · 12/07/2013 22:12

Get rid of the last nap

baskingseals · 12/07/2013 22:14

Agree with soul train.

No sleeping after about 3ish otherwise you are stuffed.
Keep him going somehow, anyhow until bedtime

CoolaSchmoola · 12/07/2013 22:17

The only thing I can think of is that his diet seems carb heavy, protein light. Protein keeps us fuller for longer whereas carbs can cause spikes and drops in blood sugar. He could be waking because of that. Try putting some protein into every meal and a protein supper. Bananas and kiwi also aid sleep, and bananas are filling so they might also help as a supper option.

BoysRule · 12/07/2013 22:18

Definitely rejig daytime naps. I would aim for a 2 hour lunch time nap and that is it. Definitely no sleeping after 3pm. If he is napping in the car on school run or something get the other DCs to keep him awake. I know that sounds cruel but at this age he is going through a transition phase with the amount of sleep he needs during the day and night and for your own sanity you need to encourage more sleep at night and less in the day.

NothingsLeft · 12/07/2013 22:27

I agree cut the late nap. I would also start reducing the morning nap and aim for an earlier, longer lunchtime nap. DS would do the 10pm thing. It was soul destroying. He needs long gaps between naps I discovered. He's done this since a year.

7am - wake up & milk
8.30am breakfast
10am Snacks
11.30am - lunch (protein of some sort)
12pm- nap 1.5-2hrs
3pm -sandwich & snacks
5.30 - dinner & milk
6.30 - bath
7pm -bed.

fluffyithinknot · 12/07/2013 22:38

thank you, i will try to knock the last nap on the head, tricky as we have 20 min walk home from nursary. i will try. he does have protien with each meal lunch today was chicken rice and veg dinner was bulger wheat,broth mix and cannalini beans followed by yogurt.
hes now just has 2oz of milk out cold on my bed ive put him in the cot, fingers crossed.
heat dosnt help hes sleeping more and has terrible hayfever, hes milk protien allergic so im happy for him to have his nutramagen milk at this age

NothingsLeft · 13/07/2013 08:27

My DS is CMPI too and sllergic to soy. Allergy babies are nutritiously bad sleeper. Millpond gave us that routine and its helped. Good luck!

ifindoubtnamechange · 13/07/2013 09:11

Gradual retreat worked for us very quickly, but you do need to be prepared to suffer some crying. I wouldn't do it on a child under a year. You don't leave them to cry, you comfort, but you don't pick up. If you search for "gradual retreat" you can get an explanation of how to do it

Also maybe offer water instead of milk in the night? When I stopped breadtfeeding DD through the night she started waking a lot less. We still had to do Gradual Retreat to get her settling better and sleeping right through.

Onawhim · 13/07/2013 10:30

Have you tried swapping his lunch and dinner foods around? Dinner sounds like (for some kids) could be a bit 'windy'. Give rice and chicken etc for dinner and keep the beans and pulses for lunch?

I have one dc who can eat endless fruit, beans etc with no issues, and another who is much more sensitive to these things.

NothingsLeft · 13/07/2013 19:53

I also do windy food for lunch. Learnt that one the hard way!

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