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Is my child rude? *Long post, sorry!

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Crikeyme · 10/06/2013 14:14

Sorry this is a bit long - I firstly want to know if this behaviour is considered out of the ordinary, and secondly would love some ideas about how to counteract rudeness/disobedience without getting shouty.

DD turned 3 last month, and is generally sociable, confident, cheeky - what I think of as an average energetic toddler. She goes to a playgroup twice a week, where she's settled and confident, but her keyworker has said that while she's very affectionate and sweet, and likes open-ended tasks, suggestions for other activities are met with a flat 'No, I don't want to'. This apparently is making it difficult to assess some of her skills as she just won't participate in things she's not interested in. The keyworker thinks this is something we need to work on, but I'm not really sure what to do with this info: 'Yes, you WILL do a drawing!' seems a bit counterproductive...

On the days I work, my parents look after DD, and love her as grandparents do. They generally follow our lead on how we deal with any problems, behavioural issues etc, and are not unwilling to tell her off if they think she needs it. She loves going there, so clearly she doesn't feel they're unnecessarily punitive. However, my dad mentioned to my mum that he was surprised at how rude DD had been to me recently, shouting 'No!' at me about something. I don't remember it, as she shouts that a lot and I always tell her not to, and to apologise and now do as she's been told (generally effective). Clearly, however, my parents thought it was unusual enough to comment on later. I know they sometimes find her stubborn and wilful, but it's always been mentioned in a 'cheeky monkey' rather than 'little monster' kind of way.

This is now really bothering me, though - I hate the idea that anyone might think she's rude, but as she's our only child I find it's difficult for me to judge whether she's out of the ordinary, or just doing the defiant toddler thing. My mum's now said she thinks all children are ruder these days and get away with things they wouldn't have when we were kids, but I don't know if she's back-tracking to spare my feelings.

PLEASE be honest - I don't want a rude child, and I don't want my parents to feel they're helping to raise one because we're being too soft and they can't go further than we would. And how can I counteract the stubborn answers or rudeness without getting shouty and turning activities she's not interested in into an issue? All responses very gratefully received!

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Littleturkish · 10/06/2013 14:54

No real experience here, but have you taught her polite ways to say no?

Crikeyme · 10/06/2013 15:20

Hi Littleturkish, we've always taught her polite ways to ask for things and say yes or no to things, but they still need reiterating. If she asks for something without a 'please' we remind her to ask properly; if we suggest something she doesn't want and just get a flat no, we remind her it's 'no thank you', (and then, if appropriate, tell her she needs to eat it/do it anyway).

She's utterly charming with strangers and is polite most of the time, and always when prompted, but obviously it's difficult for me to be objective. We usually have several 'Do as you're told' conversations a day, but I think that's average for a toddler (and she rarely if ever gets away with not doing as she's told in the long run, even if it takes a lot of repetition and a threatened or acted-on punishment). But as I say, I think it's average, whereas other people with more experience are clearly starting to see it as an issue, so I may very well be wrong.

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DewDr0p · 10/06/2013 15:26

re your parents - I think it's common for grandparents to have slight amnesia about what little children are really like. According to my Dad we were never noisy or boisterous or cheeky Grin - my Mum's face as he recounts this tells a different story!

I think all you can do at this age is gently reinforce the behaviour you do want to see. You sound like you're doing the right things to me. I'd be asking nursery how they plan to tackle the flat refusal. I tended to try and make the activity look really appealing, like it was a game or something.

Most toddlers are defiant or stubborn - I really do think it's a natural part of their development.

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Smartiepants79 · 10/06/2013 15:35

Doesn't sound too awful to me. Toddlers are stubborn. They forget the things you tell them about manners. Not unusual.
She maybe having a defiant phase.
As long as you are consistent in how you react to the behaviour, make it clear it is not acceptable to speak to you or anyone in that way she will learn as she matures.
I don't think it's unusual for them to refuse activities they are uninterested in. Does she do this at home. Assessing her is for the playschools benefit. The point of early years education is that it is child led.
Be consistent in your expectations and she will be fine.

stealthsquiggle · 10/06/2013 15:42

If keyworker thinks you should "work on it", then maybe you should ask her how you might go about working on it?

It sounds to me as though she is a small person with strong opinions. Nothing wrong with that.

Soupa · 10/06/2013 15:45

She is fab and it matters not one jot if she doesn't want to draw or whatever. Their assessments are entirely irrelevant to her, quite rightly.

Crikeyme · 10/06/2013 16:00

Thanks, ladies - I'm due to have a proper catch-up with the keyworker in a few weeks. This was at the end of a session so not a brilliant time to talk, and in fairness the keyworker didn't seem too worried by it and I'm less concerned about it than I am about the situation with my parents. My sister (a reception class TA) says that it'll all get ironed out when DD starts nursery in September and the approach changes a bit.

I hope we're consistent in the way we encourage her to behave - I get the feeling that my parents would have dealt with it differently if I'd spoken to them like that when I was a child, but I know they take their lead from us in dealing with DD. I find the threat of calling Daddy to tell him she's been misbehaving is usually enough! I just am not in a great position to judge what's 'average' and what's noticeably ruder than her peers. I see other children do the same with no consequence, whereas we do tell her she's out of order, get an apology and start the conversation over.

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Crikeyme · 10/06/2013 16:01

Oh, and Soupa? Bless you!

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