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18-rated horror movie at 11 year olds' sleepover?!

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ange8 · 24/04/2006 01:48

We've had a really upsetting night, and I'd be grateful for any advice on how to deal with this...
My dd (10 years old) went to her friend's house for a birthday sleepover last night, with a few other girls. I picked her up this morning to find that she had absolutely no sleep (as I expected, and apparently as expected by the birthday girl and parents!) and that they had spent the night watching movies including Texas Chainsaw Massacre (recent version) and Saw. My dd said that although she thought the films were scary and horrible, she felt embarassed to say she was scared, and didn't feel she could leave the room. She thought she would be OK.
She was obviously over-tired when she went to bed this evening, and I expected the usual emotional turmoil that seems to follow sleepovers, but she came downstairs after being in bed for an hour or so, and she is terrified. She has been shaking and sobbing for ages - worried that some maniac is coming to get her, will come through the ceiling/through the window/up the stairs, killing me and her dad if we try to save her ... there has been no consoling her. Finally I got in to bed with her and held her while she cried herself to sleep.
I feel disappointed that the birthday girl's parents did not supervise the sleepover more closely to check what the girls were watching, but I'm more surprised with the parents of one of the other guests who knowingly let their daughter take the movies to the party. Obviously, now I know that this is a risk, I am going to be checking the arrangements very carefully before allowing my dd to go to another sleepover (if she ever wants to). But - does anyone have any tips for helping my dd to get over her experience? I have tried explaining that the movies are just make believe, and that she doesn't have to be afraid that some maniac is out to get her. Also, that we have locked all the doors and windows, and we are safe. But she has seen the recent news about Dunblane (they said a prayer at school)and says she knows that 'maniacs' do exist, and can kill children even when the children and their parents believe they are safe. :(

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milward · 24/04/2006 10:49

how awful - where were the parents during the films? - didn't they check what was on tv? - especially with the sound coming from the room!! What an terrible experience for your dd. I'd be round at the parents house having a good talk to them - go & say what you think to them & then call social services to check how they parent their own kids.

Freckle · 24/04/2006 11:22

What about the parents of the other children there? Are they aware of what was going on? It might be an idea to speak to them to get their views as it would be better for all of you to express your anger and horror at what went on, rather than just one lone voice.

Just hope the other parents aren't as irresponsible as the sleepover girl's parents and feel that these films were appropriate for children of that age.

Kerry74 · 24/04/2006 12:27

I read this and was so outraged that my dh asked me who I was abusing!!!Angry. Have you thought of contacting a counseller for some specific advice, I think it is important to deal with this I had a similar experience as a teenager with horror movies and I still get very scared in dark situations and always think something is going to get me, even though I am old enough to know better and can rationalise........

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Kelly1978 · 24/04/2006 12:32

Shock your poor dd! Hope she feels better soon. Sad Saw is a nasty film, very scary, there is no way on earth I would let a 10yo watch it. Good luck with the parents, hope you can get soemwhere with them, and agree - try to get in touch with the other girls' parents too.

NotActuallyAMum · 25/04/2006 08:52

How's your dd ange?

fredly · 25/04/2006 11:42

ange8, I think you should explain to your dd very clearly that what she saw was a fiction, not reality. Something that only happens on tv. She really has to understand the difference, and know that what she saw cannot happen to her.

starlover · 25/04/2006 11:43

OMG I would be absolutely LIVID! Saw is a really, really disgusting movie and gave me nightmares (only film to ever have done this!)

I would give the parents hell

mumeeee · 25/04/2006 12:04

I would be extermly annoyed about this. about this. I wouldn't even let my 14 year old watch an eighteen. I would have a word with the girls parents. They should have not let thew girls wathc this film.

brimfull · 25/04/2006 12:10

This happened to my dd when she was around that age,spooked her nights for ages.I wasn't the only mum that spoke to the parents about it .

Try talking to the other parents aswell,they probably feel similar.obviously not the twats that send the movie!

Pennies · 25/04/2006 12:11

Hi Ange8,

DId you speak to her dad? What did he say? Have you spoken to any other mums whose kids were there? Bet you're not the only one in this situation from that night. How chuffing irresponsible of the hosting parents IMO.

MadamePlatypus · 25/04/2006 12:17

WOW! I might be a wimp but I do not think that I will ever want to watch that kind of film - never mind a 10 year old. I very much doubt that your daughter is the only one there who was upset.

As has been suggested, a few cosy feel good DVD/games nights should make her feel better. Also watching a behind the scenes programme is a great idea (even if it was just behind the scenes of Dr Who). Certainly when I find a programme disturbing (e.g. this week's 24), I try to imagine how it was made, how many takes they had to do etc. Also, a discussion of how they use music to make things more scary, and how the film is paced to increase tension would be a good idea.

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spacedonkey · 25/04/2006 12:22

How awful for your dd. I discovered my ds (12) watched Saw 2 at a recent sleepover - I was appalled! He doesn't seem to have suffered as a result in terms of nightmares etc, but still there is no way I would have allowed him to watch that at home. It's irresponsible of the host parents to allow it tbh.

marthamoo · 25/04/2006 12:23

I was telling dh about this last night and he, like me, was horrified. Unlike me, he's seen Texas Chainsaw Massacre and he says it is truly horrific. Have you spoken to the girl's father? Even if they claim not to know what the girls were watching that rather begs the question about the level of supervision at the sleepover. It's a fine line between giving a bunch of 10/11 year olds some privacy at a sleepover (they don't want you 'in their faces' obviously) and leaving them entirely to their own devices. If they were able to watch two horror films without anyone knowing they must have been left completely unattended for, what, 4-5 hours? As a parent, I would have stuck my head round the door once or twice in that time, just to check all was OK (I also would have made damn sure of what they were watching while I had other peoples' children in my care..)

Your poor dd - I know exactly what she means when she said she was too embarrassed to say she was scared - a bunch of us watched Amityville Horror at a friend's house when I was about the same age and I was too embarrassed to say I didn't want to watch either. I was a child who was scared by the chapter in Anne of Green Gables where she walks through the haunted forest at night (to the point where I had to shut my eyes to leaf past those pages in the book Grin) Needless to say, I had nightmares for weeks after seeing Amityville.

What's the law on this, btw? Does anyone know? Could you feasibly bring a prosecution against someone showing an 18 film to a 10 year old? I guess if the parents plead ignorance of what the kids were watching it's more of a grey area - but then perhaps you could argue that they were failing in their duty of care?

I worked in a video store for a while and it was always obvious when parents were checking out unsuitable films for their kids - I remember one particular child going and choosing Child's Play (with that horrible Chucky doll - one of the films the children in the James Bulger case had watched, iirc) and I clearly heard his Dad say "oh, not this again..." The child was no more than 8 or 9, but as the Dad physically took the video out on his card there was nothing I could do.

ange8 · 25/04/2006 23:37

Thanks to everyone for your messages of support, and for your advice. I told my dd that I had posted on mumsnet, and that everyone agreed that these films were not suitable, and that they could understand why she felt scared - and that even grown-ups are scared by these movies! I passed on the hugs - thanks NotActuallyaMum! I think this made her feel more confident that she was not being a 'baby' (of course, she expects me to say that to her and so doesn't really believe it until it comes from someone else).

I spoke to the birthday girl's dad, and he seemed genuinely shocked that they had watched these movies (he apparently didn't know until I told him). He explained that he and his wife had separated (she has left), so actually only he was there overnight. He said the girls got into their pyjamas around 10pm, and he said goodnight to them and went upstairs to bed, with instructions that anyone could get him if needed. He didn't come down again until morning - I think he was very conscious of not wanting to keep 'popping in' during the night, and felt sure that his dd or dd2(her elder sister)would alert him if required.

Before speaking to the girl's dad, I spoke to the mum of one of the other guests. Again, she had no idea until I told her of the films the girls had watched, but she immediately realised it must be true - her own daughter had woken, crying, in the night, and she had not been able to understand why. She had put it down to tiredness, but thought it was unusual.

After talking to my dd again, she told me that she thought the girl who brought the dvds to the party had actually 'borrowed' them from her grandmother's collection, without her knowing. I'm coming to the conclusion that the girls had cooked this up between them (although some of them were obviously more into the idea than others) and decided not to let their parents know. It appears that only my dd has let the secret slip - I'm actually very proud of her for that.

Although I still feel that the sleepover was inadequately supervised, I do feel for the girl's dad, who seemed very embarassed and had obvously being trying to give his dd a nice birthday, in spite of the difficult family circumstances - and not quite knowing what to do for the best with 8 girls in the house.

My dd slept OK last night - we had the kind of bedtime ritual that she has not had for a long time because she has felt too grown-up (hot chocolate, me brushing her hair, a bed time story, and then she snuggled down with her teddy) and that seemed to help.

I have simmered down now, but do still intend to speak to the parents of the girl who brought the dvds to the party - I think they need to be aware of their own dd's movie watching (and pinching) activities.

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milward · 25/04/2006 23:50

Good going ange8 - that dad will have to buck up his parenting ideas - leaving the kids without coming to check or even just listen out every now & then. Wonder what response you'll get from the parents of the child who brought the films alone - scary gran to have those films in her collection!

NotActuallyAMum · 26/04/2006 09:29

So glad your dd is a little better ange, I've been thinking about you both Smile

I'm certain that telling her people on here have been scared by the films will help her no end. I didn't say so before because I thought plenty of other people had made the point but I've seen Saw and thought it was not only scary but it really played with my mind - I struggled to sleep when my DP was on nights and for a couple of weeks I was scared to go to the loo in the night on my own, I actually woke DP up a couple of times and got him to come with me and it's only about 4 steps across the landing!! And I'm 34!!

brimfull · 27/04/2006 13:16

I'm glad your dd is feeling better ange.
Great that she wasn't too scared to tell you the truth,you obviously have a great relationship.

brimfull · 27/04/2006 13:20

Yes,I overheard a couple of 20something men talking about Saw and how it scared them shitless!

starlover · 27/04/2006 13:25

naam ditto! i made dp go everywhere with me... and I kept waking in the night thinking that the man was coming in to get me... I am nearly 26!

it isn't a frightening/horror film per se... it's a nasty, psychological, sick film.

ange8 I am glad that your dd is feeling better about it all now, and glad that you spoke to the dad about it.

Tell your dd she is very brave, and not silly at all for being scared at the film

DebraDebra123 · 11/12/2019 21:59

Don't you think checking Us going a bit far? (Depending how old ur kids are.)

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