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Gaelic education anyone?

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harrisey · 12/03/2006 20:09

My dh and I are only English speakers but our dd1 (6) is in Gaelic medium education and ds (40 in Croligean (Gaelic nursery.
Just wondered if anyone else had Gaelc-educated kids, whether or not you speak it yourself? My dd has been in total immersion for 7 months and is already fluent, I wish I could keep up.
Anyone else doing it. Tapadh leat!

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Rumpel · 20/06/2007 10:47

Hi sorry to barge in on your thread but I just wondered if somebody could help me please. I am hoping someone could tell me how to pronounce and spell our home in Scots gaelic? Would really appreciate it if you could.

A · 21/06/2007 21:34

Hi Rumpel,

I can find out if you like,

harrisey · 22/06/2007 05:36

Rumpel what's the name?

I probably cant do it but my dd1 probably can! And I have a dictioanary!

A - BAD news. Can you go t Comunn na Ghadhlig about it? (what is known in the Hebrides as the Gaelic Mafia !?) they would be appalled and put presure on HC to do something.
Sounds like rubbish to me about not even subsidising transport. My dd1 gets school transport and by the time they do all the pickups that is 40 mins!

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Rumpel · 22/06/2007 14:46

It is literally 'Our home' I would like translated. Moving to new house soon and want to call it that. My Grandma's house is called mo dachaidh (my home)and she was trying to find out for me but has been unable to ask anyone to confirm as yet.

Someone on another thread said ar dachaidh but I am confused as when reading a phrasebook it said dachaidh was a moving towards word? Aggg! keep getting punted from pillar to post on google so I would really appreciate anybody's help!

harrisey · 25/06/2007 08:09

just saw this - I'll ask dd when she gets home from school.

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harrisey · 25/06/2007 08:54

Was just speaking to my nanny as she has just finished a weeks intensive Gaelic course.
She doesnt think its "ar", but is pretty sure the 'dachaidh' is right, the 'moving towards' thing is all part of why home is home - its the place you are always going back to.

If dd cant help (she's 7, so might not) I could get you a pretty authoratative answer next week as we are going back to the hebrides for the summer and a good friend there is the cheif examiner for Gaelic for the SQA, so I could ask him. Our house there is called 'Tigh na Seileach' - House of the Willows (we have loads of willow trees round about) (pronounced tye - na - shay-lach), but he always writes it Taigh an-t Seileach as that is the more 'proper' gaelic spelling!!

Of course, it also depends on which type of Gaelic you want. Lewis Gaelic? Skye Gaelic? Inverness Gaelic? Dd started her gaelic education in Harris, with a Lewis teacher, and has since moved to Glasgow and has had to relearn quite a few words! A friend in Harris had an argument with the secondary school gaelic teacher as his son used a word for something (dont remember now) that wasnt used 10 miles down the road! Someone told me Gaelic wasnt one language, it was 1000 languages!

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Rumpel · 25/06/2007 10:19

Thanks Harrisey. My Grandma uses Sye gaelic - her house is Mo Dachaidh, my parents house is Tign na Fraoch - house on the heather. Our new house is near a river so could you maybe ask how you say and spell:
house by/near the river and our home. Really appreciate it - thank you. Have a nice holiday.

Rumpel · 25/06/2007 10:20

Skye gaelic! have computer dyslexia

harrisey · 26/06/2007 11:51

According to a gaelic speaking friend:

an taigh againne - our house

the house by the river - an taigh ri taobh na h-aibhne.
the house of the river - taigh na h-aibhne.

HTH

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Rumpel · 26/06/2007 21:05

Thanks Harrisey - dont suppose you could help me with pronounciation could you? (Sorry apostrophe button is jiggered)

drosophila · 26/06/2007 21:08

Is gaelic in scotland a living language?

Rumpel · 26/06/2007 21:39

Yeah - depends where you live. A lot of the schools are reviving it and gaelic childrens programmes and adult programmes are on TV now.

harrisey · 27/06/2007 07:47

Yes drosophila, and actually growing atm. In the Hebrides, Skye, West Coast there are a lot of speakers. Even in Glasgow where I live there is a small community - primary school with over 250 pupils, a Gaelic church etc.

For pretty mych everyone but the old folk it is a secnd language, but with the increase in gaelic eduaction and gaelic preschool provision as well as parents who are native speakers being encouaged to talk it to their babies, that is changing too.

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A · 27/06/2007 20:57

Hi Rumpel,

I'm no expert, but I think it's approximately (with help from ds1):

an taigh againne - our house
= (sounds like) an tie akin

the house by the river - an taigh ri taobh na h-aibhne.
= an tie ri toov na harven?

the house of the river - taigh na h-aibhne.
= tie na harven?

Not absolutely certain with aibhne - maybe someone else will know better...?

Hope that will help

A · 27/06/2007 21:01

Sorry,

againne is probably akinye
(the nn sound is usually like the sound in annual)

Rumpel · 28/06/2007 20:45

Thank you A - much appreciated.

byroadorbyriver · 03/07/2007 16:58

Hey guys!

The Yetti and I haven't got any kids yet, but i am VERY kean for them to learn Gaelic. But Yetti and I will be traveling/moving allot by the time tiny people arrive (every 14 days to be presice erk!). And unfortunately most of that will be in england (around leictershire-ish)

So has any one who doesn't have much gaelic, taught Gaelic by homeschooling?

LOVE this topic SO much :wub:

Beanie :D

Rumpel · 14/07/2007 18:03

Hi can anyone help please - again! Have decided I would like to call new house; sunny home. Can you advise if this is right and also pronounciation of sunny:

grianach dachaigh

Much appreciated - thanks

Rumpel · 14/07/2007 18:16

Managed to find it - it is as I thought. Thanks anyway.

A · 16/07/2007 21:05

Hi Rumpel - lovely house names.

Hi byroadandbyriver. I have no experience of home schooling, but I am in the situation of having no gaelic pre school for ds2, so we are doing bits at home, just playing around with the common phrases we know (like "sit still", and "I'm ready" and numbers etc.). We are lucky because we have access to lots of materials at the library and by TV, and ds1!

There are quite a lot of pre-school materials available, book, video + cd (of varying quality) - try acair books as a starting point and materials from bbc alba (eg: Dotaman). the website www.gaelic4parents.co.uk may help too, especially as there are recordings of some of the children's books and links to other sites too.

For adults, sabhal mor ostaig (the gaelic college on Skye) does courses by distance learning or on-line. Maybe worth checking out. Also have a look at www.airsploaid.co.uk

I hope that maybe helps a bit.

harrisey · 16/08/2007 22:33

Hello there!
Well ds started at Sgoil Ghaidlig Ghlaschu today and he seemed to havea good time. He didnt talk much about it but did complain that he wasnt getting any homework! He said he could understand the teacher but didnt want to talk to her much! He is at the Green table, which is somehow very exciting!

Dd2 starts att he Gaelic nursery next Thursday. All very exciting!

How did any other Gaelic-educated kids get on today?

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A · 25/08/2007 21:04

Hi,

We are back too. Ds1 was straight back into the rhythm of school. He goes swimming this term (in English) which is the highlight of his school week I think. He is definitely more confident in his gaelic too this year.

I have given up the fight for gaelic pre-school in our village for two children - sad but true - the highland council seems to have serious communication issues, both internally, and to anyone concerned outwith the council. I'm not wasting any more time (15 months of delays and half promises is quite enough). Ds2 and his friend are going to the next nearest nursery 40 mins away 2 afternoons which is costly and highly inconvenient for us, but seems very good, and ds2 likes it a lot.

harrisey · 30/08/2007 16:04

Glad your ds1 is enjoying school again. My ds had a couple of wobbly dys of not wanting to go (full scale horibel weeping for 45 mins!) but this week it has been a breeze, he is really enjoying it.

Want to brag about dd1 - she has gone into a p3/4 composite class (she's p3) and the teacher has sorted them by ability - she is in the top group for Gaelic and Maths, I'm really proud of her.

about the preschool provision - what a long trek you have to the other nursery! You must be of our provision here - dd2 has 3 hours of Gaelic in purpose built nursery every morning and she is loving it. She runs in and shouts good morning and gets stuck right in to it. You put up a good fight - sometimes I wonder if people with the say so actually want gaelic to survive?

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A · 01/09/2007 21:22

Your dd1 sounds as if she is doing really well & yes I am envious of your nursery! Not much I can do though (there's no emoticon for resigned) - it's far less stressful doing the travelling/organising childcare, than it is fighting the highland council... Anyway ds2 loves it and that is the main thing.

It would be nice if we had a bigger gaelic class in the school though (one reason I so wanted nursery here in the village - no nursery, no P1 intake, unless you are very determined).

Ds1 has art, music, swimming and PE in English. Does your dd1 have all her classes in gaelic?

On the plus side ds1 and ds2 are already using gaelic with each other ... they will probably push each other the whole way through school they are so competitive.

harrisey · 06/09/2007 00:26

My dd1 and ds haev everything in Gaelic, as the school provides it all. Dd1 is sarting English this term, which whill be taugt in English, but all other subjects remain in teh medium of Gaelic.

Its great. I know we are lucky, its a fabulous provision.

Think you are doing really well though!

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