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Formal diagnosis that we have failed dd

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GooseyLoosey · 21/08/2012 11:48

I feel awful.

For several years dd's schools have said that she has difficulties concentrating and following instructions. She has been described as "zoning-out" and "away with the fairies". In everyone's opinion it goes beyond normal day dreaming. She does not follow the plot in simple stories and gets words confused eg "hot" for "cold" and "cat" for "dog". She often forgets what she is supposed to be doing mid-task and cannot remember instructions with more than one part. She moved schools at Easter as we felt that the much smaller class sizes would help her. Her new teacher reported the same problems.

As a result she was referred to a peadiatrician and saw an Ed psych. The pead consultant was unable to come to a conclusion based on what he saw - he said there might be attention problems and he suggested that we and the school keep a diary of what happens and come back in a few months.

The Ed psych said that she performed above average in all the tests that she did. There was no problem with working memory (which is what the school thought) and attention seemed fine. The only problem was that she spent more time trying to manipulate the Ed psych in to giving her the answers than actually doing the tests.

The conclusion that the EP reached was that the only way to reconcile the opinion of the school and us with what she observed was to conclude that dd was afraid to enage with tasks, perhaps because she was afraid to fail.

I cannot believe that we have ended up here and that we have done this to dd. Does anyone have any suggestions how we can move on and make dd engage?

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GooseyLoosey · 22/08/2012 08:02

Hearing fine as far as we know.

The thread might have been mine and I took on board the advice I was given then. My beliefs that there could have been a problem with dd comes from the observations and urgings of her teachers not my own views. I find her as the EP did - manipulative - her default response is to say "I can't do it" rather than engage and try even when I am fairly sure she could do it and that is what drives me nuts. The EP said she spent more time trying to manipulate her into giving her help and the answers rather than applying herself to the tests, which when she did apply herself she could do perfectly well.

That is why I don't know what to do now - I absolutely know that I am not blameless here and have always thought so. My problem is where to go from here. I do not know how to make things better. How do I encourage her to try and please believe me, she has had lots of genetle encouragement and positive reinforcement in her life. There is just some frustration too.

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EdithWeston · 22/08/2012 08:16

Marking place, as my 8th old DD is rather like this (her elder brothers weren't).

The bit that really chimed with me is the reluctance to do anything if she thinks she can get an adult to tell her the answer. Also if something isn't easy the first time, she doesn't work at it.

Ideas for activities to help her puzzle things out and see things through to the end would be most welcome to me - and I guess suitable for OP too.

Also, are there any simple hearing tests one can do at home? She clearly isn't listening a fair amount of the time, and I have sometimes wondered if that's a result of sub-optimal hearing.

PropositionJoe · 23/08/2012 23:23

Is there any chance that she gets more attention when she doesn't engage (because you try to make her) than when she does? So she is thriving on that attention rather than concentrating on the task. In which case it would a case of ignore the attention seeking, but accept that she may not perform as well as she is capable of doing until such time as she matures enough to want to achieve for her own sake.

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amybelle1990 · 24/08/2012 18:08

This sounds a lot like one of my friends DC's who was diagnosed with epilepsy and started on medication which totally resolved the problem- not saying that it is epilepsy but it definitely sounds like one for the drs and not anything to do with your parenting skills.

thewhistler · 24/08/2012 18:21

Op, you could have been describing some, not all, of my Ds then. He is dyslexic, which it doesn't sound as though your dd is, but can't process instructions that don't strike a chord with him. ( not the,army for him, then.) And highly manipulative and never prepared to try anything new.

What has helped is a) me easing off, b) him being happier at school, where he was bullied, c) now working with someone on learning styles, d) counselling, which he has just started,e) an esoteric interest with other people which DH and I know nothing about where he us the expert.

It's hard.

Can you find her something she can be really good at that your Ds doesn't do? And if he wants to, don't let him?

MoRaw · 24/08/2012 20:32

I'm no expert but I would simply recommend that you relax. The more stressed you are about and the more pressure you put on yourself and her to fix things the more things will go pear-shaped.

Taking her to see so many specialists, etc is simply adding to the problem and causing her to feel pressured and that something is wrong. Kids are so intuitive, I am sure she will pick up on all the "what are we going to do about DS".

I would simply go back to scratch, relax, and praise her for her effort. I sincerely believe in praising for effort - if she puts in her best effort then that is the most you can ask for. As she gains confidence again, her effort will get better and better.

Just my two cents.

PropositionJoe · 24/08/2012 22:11

How would she respond to negative phrasing of the "I bet you can't..." variety?

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