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Please give me a fresh perspective /kick up the bum - struggling to deal with tricksy 7 year old

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clemetteattlee · 14/08/2012 09:29

This might be a bit long and is written in the iPad so apologies for typos.
I have two children aged 7 and 4. My daughter is my eldest and she is bright, funny, energetic, enthusiastic. She is also, at the moment, incredibly wilful, sulky, ungrateful and occasionally mean. I have caught her being mean to her little brother and also being mean to her friends when they come 'round to play or if we meet them at the park etc. Essentially she is a bit spoilt I think. She has always been unable to entertain herself and whatever we are doing she never allows herself to enjoy it, instead constantly asking what's next. Even during special treats she is asking for ice-creams, to go somewhere else, to see someone else etc.
If we are doing something that she doesn't want to do she simply sulks for the entire time making it unpleasant for everyone else. With her friends she is bossy and if they don't do as she wants she simply refuses to do anything. She has reduced a couple of them to tears of frustration.
She has started shouting at me and occasionally refusing to do as she is asked.

Writing it down it doesn't look too bad but actually the atmosphere here is dreadful. She is naughty, I tell her off, she is naughty, I tell her off in a constant cycle. We try REALLY hard with positive consequences for good behaviour and allowing her to take herself for "calm down time" in her room if she feels like she needs it, but I also don't think I should let her get away with poor behaviour (kicking her brother, making her friends cry, throwing mini tantrums) so I challenge it.

Sometimes I challenge it calmly, and sometimes, to my shame, i get really angry and shout things I don't even mean. For example, "if you can't be nice you will have to go and live at grandma's". I know how damaging this is. My childhood was spent being shouted and screamed at by a bipolar mother and I am DESPERATE to be better at parenting than that. But I seem to have lost my way. I am either telling her off, or worse shouting at her, or in tears because I feel so lost that my lovely little girl is acting like this. I realise both of these responses are not entirely normal and so wonder what I can do? I really don't want to damage her self esteem by telling her she is being naughty ALL THE TIME!

Add into this a lovely but incredibly energetic and boisterous four year old and I am starting to get to the position where I don't really want to take them out on my own because I can't manage both of their behaviour at the same time without getting incredibly stressy and shouty.

So, does anybody have any advice? Our mantra at the moment is "be consistent, use rewards and consequences, and TRY to be calm" but I am finding it all so draining and feel a complete failure at the moment.

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Polygon · 14/08/2012 13:51

I have a nearly seven year old dd and a three and a half year old ds and a lot of what you have written sounds very familiar. Particularly me beating myself up about being shouty and saying horrible things to dd when I can´t manage her.
I must say, the only way out I have found is trying to get SOME one-to-one time with her. With us it is really hard as dd is really a daddy´s girl and as soon as dh is there, she only wants to do things with him. What´s more, she really feels that I favouritise ds. It´s usually because she really hurts him and so I pick him up to comfort him and am cross with her for being so violent. But, back to the one-to-one time. In the holidays we went to an area with lots of rock climbing and scrambling. This really wasn´t dh´s thing which, for once, let dd and I get really into it while dh kept ds busy. Every time we´ve had some time like this, the whole dd-being-difficult-me-getting-cross-me-feeling-guilty cycle seems to be broken with us.
I think it´s the only solution tbh.
Regarding the friend situation, I think this is a really difficult age when they all seem to be being horrible to each other (at least in dd´s class). We´ve now got a book about being a good friend which both kids like. Still, I think we´ve got a long way to go...! :o)

clemetteattlee · 14/08/2012 14:04

Thanks for your reply. I completely recognise what you are saying because I had a similar experience earlier in the holidays - took DD out for a special day on her own and she was wonderful (happy, contented, chatting) until the minute we got home and then the arguments started again.it's hard isn't it?

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Polygon · 14/08/2012 14:16

It really is hard. I read "Siblings without rivalry" from the people who wrote "How to listen so kids will talk and talk so kids will listen" and they suggest leaving the kids to sort out their disagreements as much as possible. They then say that when it gets dangerous, the adult must step in. I got an advice booklet from our social services which said pretty much the same thing. The problem is with dd that it is almost always dangerous. She can really hurt ds. He annoys her non-stop but then she lashes back really hard. So, I leave them to sort it out when he is being annoying and as soon as she retaliates, I step in. No wonder she feels I´m on his side. I try to explain it to her, but I think it´s me who has to do something different. I think have to find some more ways of making her feel like I am on her side (not as opposed to ds´side, but me at her side as she goes through life, supporting her and loving her).
Still, fwiw, I think those two books are really good on all of these issues - I would recommend them if you haven´t read them already.

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clemetteattlee · 14/08/2012 14:19

Thank you. I have them but haven't read them yet. I think it is time to get them read!

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