9 month old waking at 5am for the day.

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Dd sleeps 7pm-5am so not too bad but wakes rubbing eyes and is clearly still very tired.

Any suggestions out there to get her to sleep later even just an hour?

Btw pushing bedtime later doesn't help.

Thank you.

1. Is he hungry? Will he go back to sleep if you feed him?
2. Push his morning nap later . Sounds mad but worked for us! Apparently if it's too early they think of iras part of the night sleep.

We just started to accept it, my son did that for a while but he'd then go back to bed after brekkie for quite a while. Not ideal as you still have an early start but you could go back to bed!

Thank you, don't think its hunger as she won't settle again after a bottle. After she wakes at 5am she wil have a 30-45 min nap at somepoint in the day, usually at 4-5pm then next sleep is bedtime. Nothing will get her to nap earlier, she just fights it despite being shattered.

Hi I'm new to this. Know what you mean tho. My LO is starting to wake earlier and earlier too. She usually goes to bed at about 7pm and is awake 5.30am. This too is ok but she also wakes up yawning and is rubbing her eyes within an hour. She is quite content to be left in her cot for an hour or more and sometimes she'll fall back to sleep but often not. This means nap times are constantly changing and it's really hard to get a routine going. She's also started crying out in the night every few hours. Sometimes she's awake but most often she seems to be asleep. Don't know why this has started.

Any ideas??

Have u tried cutting the Afternoon nap by 10/15 mins?

I haven't really thought of this as her afternoon nap is usually only 1hr 20mins, somtimes a bit less. Not sure if this would then make the nap too short and therefore leave her overtired for bedtime, harder to settle and more likely to wake in the night!?

Thought I'd add a very rough schedule outline of our day:

5.40 - 6am - wake up and she is happy to play and chat in her cot until 7ish (which I know is very good)
7am - in bed for cuddles/play with mummy
7.30am - up, change nappy etc
7.45 - Milk
8.30 - Breakfast
9.30 in cot for nap, chats for about 10mins - Nap (Aprox 1hr 15mins). Give or take 10/15mins.
11ish - awake from nap
12.45pm - lunch - solids followed by milk

Next nap time is very unpredictable. We try to keep her going as long as we can so that after this nap there is less time until bedtime.
So it is about 2pm (altho after chatting to herself this is usually 2.15pm ish

Try to have her in bed for the night 6.45pm so she is asleep for 7pm

Recently she has been waking up after about an hr of being in bed, then intermitently throughout the night. She is able to re settle herself on most occasions pretty quicky altho does briefly cry out.

Does anyone think that the awake time between the two naps is too long? Could this be causing her to become overtired and therefore waking soon after going to bed and then through the night?

Would it be best to shorten the awake time between waking up and nap 1(say put her down at 9am)? Then put her down for nap 2 about 3 hrs after she wakes from this nap which would be about 1pm. I could then put her to bed about 6.30pm which would be about 4hrs (poss 4.5hrs after she wakes)?

Sorry for the rambling, just have loads of ideas whizzing round my head! Have been driving myself mad about how to sort out her sleep so we have more of a routine and no night wakings (and if poss not such early mornings). Altho if she sleeps from 6.30pm til 6am with no night wakings I would be happy with that start to the day.

More food before bedtime might help? Try some carb loading :-)
My DD at the same age got up at 7, had a 30 mins nap at 9am (usually en route to a kids group - much easier to wake them up in a room of buzzing children), big main meal lunch at 12, then 2 hrs nap from 1-3. Dinner at 5-6.

When she started waking at the crack of dawn we did two things - a) gave her more food in the evening (worked for a friend too but her child was having a nursery "tea" at 4pm which seemed to consist of a bagel and cream cheese) and b) left her to it to amuse herself until 7am but didn't allow the day time naps to be any longer.

When did she drop nap 2? Ds was like this for a while after dropping it and then settled on his own. I felt like he was just adjusting to his new schedule. Is your LO a good eater? Maybe add a couple of snacks during the day which may Make the nap longer, bedtime later and longer? Try following her lead instead of initiating the bed/nap times to see where her natural rhythm is maybe?

Op, a 45min nap at 4pm after waking at five seems like very little. she may be overtired. We do the following (might work for.you):

*when dd wakes at fiveish, we offer her (in her room in the dark) 4oz of milk.in a little bottle with a newborn teat. The effort she has to put into sucking the miok out sends her back over. She then wakes at 7.30

*I time how long she is awake. soin the.morning, exactly two hours after she wakes for the day, she gets put in her buggh with dummy and teddy in the dark and I push the buggy for five.mins or so and she goes over.

*afternoon nap - usually three hours afyer she last woke. Again, dummy teddy in buggy in dark and pushed for five. after she has been asleep for 30/35mins, I go back in and push her again for five ish mintes. This makes her sleep for a.total of 1.5 hrs at that nap.

I definetly think more.sleep in the day = more sleep at night. Oh, and I dont let her sleep after 4pm.

I would also do milk at 7 and breakfast by 7:45. This gives you time for a quick snack before naptime... But my ds can eat and eat just like mum

Oh my word, sorry for the spelling - crappy phone.

my DD doesn't sleep either. (8months)

and she rubs and rubs her eyes, her arms, everything, and scratches too.

i have no solution. :(
just wanted you to know you're not alone.

she has had 2 naps today, though
(first one 10 mins, 2nd one nearly an hour!)

Ah I see sorry she still hasnt dropped nap 2, my ds did this very early (9-10 months)

DS now 26 mo still wakes up at 5.
When he was under 1 he woke up between 5.30-6.00 and slept at 9.30-11 and then 2-4 with lunch in between. And back in bed by 6.30/7.
At 1 yo he dropped to one 3 hour nap 12-3. Basically at any point wakefulness should not go past 5 hour limit to prevent over tiredness is what learnt. As he got older anything he could interact with kept him awake.
You could try a 11pm bottle and nappy change. And black out blinds. Together they kept him asleep. He is an early riser but likes to make up in the afternoon. Also slept better in his own room with soft music on.

Good luck!

Thank you everyone, dd has started waking around 5.30am/6am for the day which I can handle, then having a morning nap 9-10am then an afternoon nap around 12-2pm. We has just cut her top tooth so I wonder if that wasn't helping with the sleep. Thank you