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over protected nieces.

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williamsmummy · 06/03/2006 12:47

Two of my nieces are adopted, at a young age, my BIL and SIL were , naturally enough , very protective of them when they first arrived in to our family. At ages 2 and 3. They will be 10 and 9 this year.
They worried that if they got bruised or marked it would not look good to the social services and wanted to make sure that they were good parents. So they worked hard to stop normal childhood bumps and bruises.

However as time has gone on this over protectiveness has not decressed over the years.
Because SIl had a physical problems she couldnt run after the children, so they learnt to stay close to her when outside.
Which is fair enough.
They also used a pushchair , so that SIL could hold on to it when taking the children to school.
But I suspect that the children rode in it quite often.

They were also very worried that they would be snatched away by their birth parents, so clung tightly to their hands all the time when outside the home.

Tragically we lost our SIL a while ago, and of course the impact has been terrible.
Its natural for a father who's only reason to carry on is his children, to work hard to keep them safe.
There are many issues of great concern with the children, educational, and emotional, and these are being worked on at school, and other experts supporting them as a family.

So perhaps this is why I cant bring myself to mention that perhaps he steps back and let the children get on and play.
BIl still holds on to the childrens chests to stop them going down a slide too quickly at the park.
The older child cant ride a scooter, and can barely ride a bike with stabalizers, (SP?) and even when she climbs a ladder , her movements remind me of a 2-3 yr old.
The pushchair is still in the house, but I am hoping that the children play with it, rather than use it !! if you know what I mean!

BIL begs them not to run in case they fall over and hurt their knees.
He stops them from climbing high, and obviously worries and frets.

I am really hoping that this will change as the family adjust as time goes one, and its good that he does have swiming lessons and majorettes for them.

Food is of course a major battleground, and they have more of less complete control of him.
If they refuse to eat lunch before going out, they know he will have a big bag of goodies to give them, he firmly believes that they would starve if he didnt do this.
But he cant understand that they have no need to change their behaviour if they know that a bag of high sugar /fat snacks are always going to be offered.

He has gone on lots of parenting courses, and is the most patient of fathers, and in many ways a better parent than both of us!

I will bite my lip and will only offer advice is asked, but I worry over the mental effects of this attitude.
If falling over is seen as a disaster , how will these children cope when older??

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colditz · 06/03/2006 13:02

I think that aged 9 and 10, they will not behave like this at school, and therefore have an idea about how life goes. They will reach their teenage years and they will rebel.

I knew a girl of 19 whose father treated her like this, btw, he used to pick the bones out of her chicken before he put it on her plate, she dropped a glass in the middle of the night once (I was sleeping over) and he screamed down the stairs - "Stand still!", ran downstairs and cleaned it up - so she didn't cut herself. She was 19!

She is now an estate agent, and apart from a tendancy to think the world revolves around her, and a slight penchant for older men, she is fine. Fully functional, just a bit spoilt.

VeniVidiVickiQV · 06/03/2006 13:03

Seems like your BIL needs lots of support and encouragement.

He's clearly had a tough time.

The children will learn to cope when they are older, they will just be late starters.

wannaBe1974 · 06/03/2006 16:33

I think it is actually possible to impede a child’s development by being over-protective. But I mean over-protective of the extreme kind. When I was at school one of the boys who was quite a bit younger than me had had parents who were incredibly over-protective. He’d been born blind and his family were simply unable to cope with the reality of it. And because they just didn’t think he’d ever be able to do anything for himself they did everything for him, and I mean literally everything. They carried him everywhere or took him in a pushchair until he was 5, they fed him, dressed him, and the list goes on. The result was that when he started school he was severely physically and emotionally underdeveloped. Because he’d never been allowed to walk his leg muscles hadn’t developed properly and so, although he could walk, his movement was impaired. He’d never been allowed to play with other children (for fear he might get hurt) and as a result was unable to interact properly with his peers. The result was that he was very badly teased at school. He had to undergo a lot of physiotherapy and play therapy to help with his problems. It’s very sad because there actually was nothing else wrong with him other than that he couldn’t see, but his parents’ actions actually caused him to have a lot of problems which he didn’t need to have. I don’t know what happened to him, but I know that when I left school he was still very small, very immature and had no friends, I can’t imagine what might have happened to him.

I think it’s important to allow children to play, and actually to fall over and get hurt, they never learn unless they’re allowed to do so. But I can understand why your Bil would want to protect them from everything, especially considering they were adopted in the first place so might likely have been through an emotional trauma at an early age, and then having to go through the trauma of losing their mother as well. Could you maybe take them out occasionally so as to let them play in a normal setting and let them learn that it’s ok to play on their own and go down the slide on their own? That way you can help them to learn to play as 9/10 year olds should play without having to actually say to your Bil that he needs to let them go. If they are allowed to play in a normal setting then they will ultimately gain the confidence to tell their dad that it’s ok to let them go.

Good luck

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williamsmummy · 07/03/2006 20:23

thank you. we do sort of do that already , when they come over to play.
Hopefully time will sort this one out!!
I think I find it difficult to bring up the subject for lots of reasons.
Ironically , one of my children does have a potenitally life threatening illness, but that has had the opposite effect on me!

I let all my children play and climb what ever they want, after all broken arms are not life threatening!!
I must appear to be a quite heartless mother at times to my BIL!!

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