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just shouted at my one yr old

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charlmills · 15/06/2012 13:45

I just lost it and shouted at ds. He was crying (no tears) more whining and I just had to deal with dd throwing a big tantrum in the library. I'm also feeling rough from a virus I've had.
Now I know its stressful but I felt really angry with him and just shouted at him to bloody stop it and put him on the floor quite roughly.
I feel awful - he is ok happily singing in his cot now going for his nap but I feel like I lost control. Am I really bad?
This was all in front of dd and I'm really trying to teach her to be nice to her little brother....oh dear :(

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Magneto · 15/06/2012 13:47

Don't worry he will be fine. Grin your not bad, just normal.

ZuleikaD · 15/06/2012 16:47

Perfectly normal. Grin If you're concerned about the effect on dd, then apologise to ds with her there and explain to them both that sometimes grownups lose their tempers too - but when they do they say sorry and then everyone's friends again.

Mayamama · 15/06/2012 18:34

I agree with Zuleika bu it is also perhaps whether you often get worked up by whining and tantrums. If so it might recur. I had very poor response to whining for years (not publically but more at home) and finally I realised it was me who was the problem as children are prone to whining and tantruming. If I was to be happy with them I had to change. I might be jumping to conclusions here regarding your case but just recognise this somehow.

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PoppyWearer · 15/06/2012 18:36

Don't worry. We're all human.

imnotmymum · 15/06/2012 18:39

Oh bless please do not worry have a cuddle and explain that Mummy lost her temper and it is not the right thing to do etc... Believe me my kids have me lose it and we all love each other. It is Friday and it the week end. Enjoy it and put it from your mind.

charlmills · 15/06/2012 22:54

Thanks everyone for your kind responses. I definitely need to work on my reactions to their whining as it is a regular thing. I know my reaction often makes things worse.

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Mayamama · 16/06/2012 21:40

I know hat you mean with those reactions...It is so damn hard.
I found great help from an parenting book (Aletha Solter, Tears and Tantrums) that explains that children's tantrums are, in fact, calls for help, reassurance and support rather than just tantrums about that particular broken cookie. We all accept that when children are tired or hungry they are more prone to tantrums and whines. Well, it is easier to cope with such behaviour when you think that being emotional is a similar physical feeling. Tantrums are your opportunity to show to your child that you not only help them when they are hungry&tired, but also when they are emotional (i.e. whiny and tantrumy :) ). And holding lovingly a tantruming child may well be the best thing you can offer (instead of getting worked up about the silly pretext they have chosen to show their emotions, or giving in to their demands). My DS2 has just turned 2 and has started showing his ego some time ago. Many "no-s" are inevitable every day, and it is such a relief that I can say no, and then simply hold him, accepting his protests / and our relationship is not damaged by the tantrum, but, rather, becomes better as he learns he can safely offload his emotions and then carry on without mummy getting upset. To teach your children that in your company, they can safely get upset, you are there and able to connect with them -- it has been such a turnaround for me.

ButtonBoo · 16/06/2012 21:44

Mayamuma - DD is 8mo and I've got all this to come but what you've just said will stick in my mind! Very wise!!! You're one calm muma!

Alibabaandthe40nappies · 16/06/2012 21:45

Don't beat yourself up, I've been there many times!

Something I've found useful recently, is having the radio on in the kitchen when we are at home. It kind of insulates me from the whining, and I respond more positively to the boys, who consequently moan and whine less.

Plus, it is very hard to shout at someone when you are dancing around the kitchen Grin

CogitoErgoSometimes · 17/06/2012 08:20

Don't feel bad for shouting. Sometimes the only thing that gets through is if you change your tone of voice and up the volume a little. Far better to do that than occasionally to give them a load of psychological guilt-tripping explaining why the whining is 'making mummy feel sad '

Mayamama · 17/06/2012 18:45

Cogito, can't imagine this ever to work, I mean to stop whining by boo-hoo-sad-face. Or raising your voice. I am sure raising your voice slightly in response to whining will soon lose its effect, and then you need to raise it even further. I have tried both and as whining or tantrums etc are such a daily thing with children under 4, such approaches wear out quickly. WHich is why finding a way that almost certainly keeps you calm is probably more important than finding an effective way to extinguish the whiner.

ButtonBoo -- glad it helped. Check out the book as well and you are likely to be one calm mama yourself.

ButtonBoo · 17/06/2012 21:48

Mayamuma - will do!! Got a bit of time to get ready for it all. Forewarned is forearmed right!!

jaggythistle · 18/06/2012 00:11

mayamama I'm interested in this as both getting annoyed and consequently raising voice and trying to explain to DS1 (2.9) why he can't have something or how what he's doing/not doing is affecting things isn't working!

i feel we've lost our way a bit the last few months as he's just started ignoring us and being 'naughty'. it's compounded by the arrival of his 2 month old brother and he's realised we can't always physically stop him from doing dangerous things/making a mess while feeding the baby for example.

i think DH is trying to treat him like a mini adult and he thinks I'm too soft so we're not agreeing or being consistent.

i don't like the feeling of getting annoyed at him, however frustrating and wearing the behaviour is. :(

Mayamama · 18/06/2012 08:41

jaggy - I agree, my older one always gets the hard end of the stick (not literally, of course ... Shock ) We always assume he SHOULD already know - without realising how he damn well cannot. Even an adult cannot always deal with emotions, imagine the under 3 year old deaing with changed attention of his dear parents etc.

I guess the central thing is to accept, as someone in another thread put it - "all behaviour is for a reason". Being "naughty" is caused by being more emotional, which is in turn caused by feelings of fear, anger, confusion etc. So in your case it may be that he is feeling distraught by the arrival of the new one who gets so much attention and who has changed his parents and his life (even if only ever so subtly). Now, you can always just try to deal with the surface layer, that is, "being naughty". As you have learned (lucky you! Many parents just won't accept that and set themselves up for a long period of standoffs!), it does not really work. I am sure parents who are "consistent" in punishing their children and banning the show of emotions will get results, too. But they are, in the process, going to undermine their relationship with the child and potentially steer the child in the direction which is leading to other issues later in life. My 5 year old, for instance, has unfortunately learned that showing emotions is a negative thing so gets very irritated by his younger brother's crying, and sometimes yells at him. It's like looking in a mirror for me - as we only recently learned to treat crying and tantruming differently.

Thankfully as we are now consistently responding calmly and supportively to emotions, he is coming round to accept his brother's as well as his own feelings better. Anyway, that aside, it is best to, on the one hand, reassure him of your continuous love and presence for him, and on the other hand, not punish him for tantrums but accept this is an outlet of strong emotions (with often ridiculous pretexts). Some children allow you to hold them whilst they complain and tantrum, some will yell and try to hit. I hold the hand that tries to hit and tell him it is ok to be angry and to cry but not to hit. As he learns that you will not abandon (see below!) him for his emotions, and as you learn to welcome the show of emotions as a way to connect to him rather than as an obstacle in your relationship, he will be less "naughty" and more cooperative. It may take time (it has taken a few months for me to see real results) but it really works.

I can only recommend again to get one of Solter's books or to check out advice on www.awareparenting.com although for me, the books worked better as more systematic etc. But you might find the bits and pieces you need from there.

Re: abandoning. Just a brief explanation -- I realise "abandoning" is a strong word, and I do not mean it literally. On the other hand, for a small person the anger of the parents he loves, and their dishing out naughty corners and other punishments will often feel like abandoning, literally. And it teaches them not that when they are "bad" their parents get mad and then they will feel "bad". No. It teaches them that when they feel "bad" and as a result act "bad", their parents get mad, so it is best to suffocate the feeling of "bad" - which, unfortunately, leads to acting even worse...

Sorry, this was a long one, but those thoughts here just got me thinking. I hope it wasn't entirely useless for the OP!

Best of luck to you all,
M

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