HELP! Can a cold cause a fever?

[expatinscotland]

FIL had a NASTY cold and exposed DD1 (2.5) to it. A lot. She started coughing and having a runny nose yesterday. Today she's been whimpering. She absolutely REFUSES to: eat anything or drink anything. She will not take Calpol, Nurofen, etc. She vomits if you force them on her. She won't even have chewables.

We laid her down for her nap and went to get her and she didn't want to come out. She just says, 'Night, night,' and asks for her blanket.

She has no rash, just VERY red cheeks and is sweating.

Could this all be from the cold??

She's had a flu vaccine.

Please help! This is only the second time she's been ill - the first was when she was 9 mos. and had gastroenteritis.

Oh, her temp is 38.6

Expat my dd is exactly the same as your DD just now.

She lay down and tried to go to sleep at 3 o clock today, and she hasn't had a daytime nap since she was 14 mnths! (she's 5)

She has hardly eat anything in the past few days, a mouthful here and there, but she is drinking ok.

I think it is just a bug doing the rounds. I have been giving DD medised which has been giving her more relief than calpol ets and she also seems to think it tastes better, so will quite happily take it.

Could you try her with an ice lolly may help to get some fluids in her and soothe her throat if it is painful too (DD's is)

this sounds very much like the bug ds2 had over Xmas -- he ran a temp of 102F which is about the same as your dd1.

He didn't eat for about 5 days and he normally has a good appetite. He vomited several times in the first 24 hrs then was able to keep down a little diluted juice and we were able to give him Medised. Dehydration is always a worry when they are so small.

If you are at all worried about her take her to the Dr and have her checked out

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my ds2 also slept a huge amount he put himself to be he is 4 and hasn't had a daytime nap ffor about 18 months

she is refusing EVERYTHING, includind fluids. am on hold w/NHS Direct just now.

I could fcking shake my FIL! He was fcking racking w/cough the other day and was just like, 'Oh, I won't get around the baby.' then proceded to handle DD1 and play with her. Thanks a lot!

I have a THREE WEEK OLD baby at home, ffs! DD1 hasn't been around anyone but us since DD2 was born 10 December. If the little baby gets this, I'm going to go ghetto, seriously. As it is, I'm incredible PISSED OFF. My poor wee girl. She just keeps wailing, 'Night, night.'

I have opened the window in her bedroom and turned off the heat b/c she is not letting us take away her duvet and is refusing even ice cream.

I've just been diagnosed w/PND again on top of this and put on ADs.

Oh, sorry to hear it expat! Hopefully DD2 will be fine.

Do you have any ice lollies/flavoured ice cubes you could try, a bit easier to eat than ice cream.

let us know how you get on with NHS 24

Were NHS direct any help, expat?

someone will phone us back. nice. they've actually killed a few people here by fobbing them off! one of them a 17-year-old girl w/meningitis and the other a 30-year-old man w/septacaemia.

she's still awake and whimpering/coughing. refusing everything. no point in trying to force her, she just vomits.

i'm PRAYING and making Faustian bargains w/God that DD2 does NOT get this - she's not even a month old. It'd be straight to Sick Kids w/her. my little bitty baby.

i've made some flavoured ice lollies. dunno if she'll take 'em. i just keep offering.

i wish i could get some MediSed down her.

she pushes me away. i sponge her face w/a cold cloth and then she tells me 'bye bye'.

No, they always phone you back, expat. Shouldn't be too long I hope. I am sorry to hear all this. It's horrible when your little ones are ill. How on earth did you manage to avoid her getting ill more often than she has? I think we should have shares in Medised, here.

she's just a strong lass. i WISH i could get some medised or SOMETHING down her!

she just lays there w/a cold cloth on her head whimpering. she's losing her voice.

i wish she'd drink something. have some ice cream. a lolly. something.

i'm so worried about her and my baby. she's coughed around the baby, of course. it's unavoidable, that's why i was so w/FIL.

still am.

Sounds like a very nasty cold. A friend of mine's daughter had similar the week before Christmas and was pretty poorly for a week. She's 2 as well and spent most of the time just cuddling up and sleeping. They got the doctor out in the end who prescribed antibiotics and she improved rapidly.

I hope they phone you back quickly, it's horrible waiting.

You're breastfeeding, aren't you? Your baby will maybe get off a lot lighter than dd1 even if she does catch it. She'll have a lot of help from your milk.

yep, baby is bf'd. i'm hoping she escapes it entirely b/c of that.

i take fish oils and linseed oil in hopes of improving my immune system.

just bought my year's supply of vitamins and supplements - except linseed and the elderberry extract i take in the autumn of every year.

dh just sallied out to get those patches to put on a child's forehead. i stuck a menthol patch on her pj top (she sleeps in a grobag).

she's trying to sleep.

at any rate, i'm phoning the surgery asap in the morning.

As far as I understand it, breastfed babies still catch the colds but then you feed antibodies (or the means to make antibodies? not sure) through in the milk. In fact it is in the baby's interests if you catch the cold yourself so that you can make the correct antibodies more quickly - I think they even pass the infection on to you while at the breast to enable this (selfish little sods ).

i just got 2.5 ml medised down her. not the full dose but can try again

put one of those karvol gel patches on her forehead as well.

nhs phoned back. said it's likely a nasty cold.

her temp's not risen, no rash, etc

going to phone gp tomorrow anyhow

i SO hope she sleeps

left heat off in her room but she is in her grobag and has her duvet if she wants it.

my poor wee lass!

Hopefully, the medised will help a bit, and the patches may help to cool her down.

Hope she gets a good nights sleep and is feeling better in the morning.

And fingers crossed DD2 escapes it.

Oh expat, I only just saw this. Poor you, and poor dd1. I would bet any money that dd2 doesn't get it because of the breastfeeding ut if she does you should just do as you say and get her straight to Sick Kids. Does your GP not have any kind of out of hours service? Is it all * NHS Direct?

Poor soul. She got a whole dose of MediSed. I just gave it to her little by little and she was waving at me and telling me 'Bye bye' b/c she didn't want to take it.

She let me cuddle her a bit. Tried to give her something to drink but she kept saying 'No thanks.' How sweet is that? She's polite even when ill!

I will just keep checking all night and offering her liquids. I made some OJ lollies. Hopefully she'll want them soon. She didnt want ice cream.

Paranoid about them both and DD2 in particular but I know a lot of that is caused by my depression and anxiety problems. I can't avoid it now at any rate. But rather than just gamely accept it I'm wracked w/panic attacks.

I agree w/NHS Direct that it's probably viral. But the GPs getting a ring asap if DD1 is still refusing liquids in the morning.

What help are you getting for your depression and anxiety expat? I'm very sorry to hear you are feeling so rough - I have suffered with depression but not PND, and I can't begin to imagine how hard it is to cope with a new baby plus toddler when you are feeling that way.

expat - please don't take this the wrong way, but I think you are being a little paranoid adn panicky (though I completely understand why). Kids do get colds, and very usually fight them off very well within a few days. They do know what is best for themsleves, and sleep is agreat healer. A temperature is also a good sign that the body is fighting off an infection. And your dd1 will cope far better with an infection whilst she is being bf.
I do know how desperately you feel for a sick child though - even without the added pressure and emotion of PND. But I'm sure she will be fine.
You can get paracetomol suppositories to use for when kids won't take liquid versions. they are hellishly expensive over the counter, but if you beg your GP he might prescribe some for your dd. And you could try expressing some breast milk and giving it to dd1 - if you have been exposed to the same virus she has then your body will be producing antibodies which will be in your bm and could help her fight the infection of.

Thanks, Pru. I have PND - again - just saw the GP today and have been referred to consultant psychiatrist and put on a tri-cyclic for now b/c bf'ing. A large part of the manifestions of the illness in me is anxiety, for some reason. W/DD1, I wasn't bfing, so I got some mega anti-anxiety drugs right away and some nice tranqs to help me sleep, as I have hellish insomnia. Not so w/DD2. I should have known, I started having panic attacks whilst pregnant w/DD2. Not fun.

My rectus abdominus muscle is also apparently so split I need physio, but can't do that for another few weeks. Exercise really helped me last time, I've always been athletic, but now even going for a decent walk hurts.

Thanks for the tip about the suppositories, tho!

I did manage to get some MediSed down DD1, and she's finally sleeping!

DD1 has not been ill but once, so it's a bit of a shock.

Hopefully she'll feel better in the morning. I've expressed about 40ml. I'll see if DD1 will take it, but she refuses all liquids.

I made her some OJ lollies, hope she'll want them!

How are things this morning expat?

Her fever's gone, but she is STILL refusing liquids. I got about two ounces of water ahd juice down her and 3mL of MediSed. She refuses ice lollies, ice cream, etc. I just keep offering things. Even flat ginger ale. She just says no. She's still coughing miserably.

Poor soul! She's lying in her cot just now, but not sleeping. She's got lots of cuddly toys in there and I put the TV on Cbeebies for her and clean sheets, pillow, duvet, grobag. That always makes me feel better.

I've moved the baby to another room and she'll stay in there.

I won't be able to relax until a week goes by w/o the baby having contracted this, b/c it's nasty, nasty. It has about a 4-5 day incubation period.

My anxiety is s*ite!

DD1 will be fine. She'll recover. She's a strong lass.

It's the newborn I'm worried about.

I can't even speak to FIL I'm so upset by their complete lack of consideration.

At least you havemanaged to get some medised in her that is a start, and even a few ounces of juice now and again will make a difference.

Lying resting is possibly the best thing for her just now, poor wee soul.

After sleeping until 11.15am this morning, dd seems to have picked up loads, although, still has a horrible cough, so the end is in sight, and will be for you too soon.

Tiny babies are more resiliant than we often give them credit for, so hopefully dd2 will escape it.

Is your DH back at work today? Or do you still have someone around?

Take care

DH is back at work, but he only works evenings so it's not too bad. He's sleeping just now, though, b/c he wound up taking DD2 a drive this morning at 2AM when she wouldn't settle. She's only 3 weeks so there's still no 'routine'.

DD2 is sleeping, too. I moved her away from DD1 into our bedroom.

DD1 had just gotten over a nagging cough when she got this. But in that case, it was just a lame cough. I had it myself for months when the semester started - the students gave it to the academics and they in turn gave it to the rest of the staff.

This one is nasty - that fever.