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Myself and children harrassed by pensioner neighbour~will the police laugh it off?

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plinkduet · 04/08/2011 12:16

I live in a small terrace with communal path leading to my house at the end and no fence boundaries between houses, so the path to mine and my neighbour's front door is effectively shared I guess.

She owns her house, I rent privately. She is in her late 50s/early 60s I am guessing.

For the first year and half living here, all was amicable. But below lists what has occurred since, with no catalyst I can think of. But does this count as unreasonable enough behaviour to warrant taking steps forward and involving the police? ~ can it really be harrassment if it's by an old dear? Hmm I think the police will just laugh it off if I ask their advice, but at this stage I believe it's the only way she will understand how anoying her behaviour has become.

She's an ex- professional Nanny so I'm surprised at her behaviour.

When my two under 4s play in the front garden, I can see them from the window but occassionally their ball will fly into her garden. I don't notice this happening. Eventually she confiscated the ball.

She also removed the eldest's scooter and put it in the skip. It's now gone, presume someone drove past and took the scooter. The scooter was used for getting to nursery and was an oldfashioned robust thing you cant buy anymore.

I received totally unexpected letter from Environmental Health that an anonymous neighbour complained I was persistently entering my attic space after midnight and making unacceptable noise. I can't get in the attic as I don't know how to put the ladder back up again, let alone after midnight with sleeping kids. I've never been up there! I think it's the stair gates, but even so with a baby I hardly bang that about at night.

This neighbour has complained to my letting agency several times that both children 'run amok' in the gardens, even when the little one hadnt started to walk yet. The eledest has perhaps twice run off down the neighbour's garden, no-one's in fenced.

If my children are playing outside in the usual manner of under 4s, I am told I 'can't keep them under control'.

Very recently she has begun leaving the house early in the morning and leaving a radio or TV on VERY loud ie it's obviously at full volume, upstairs, even as early as 5.50am, I suspect so that it wakes us all up!

Just before she got in her car one time to leave for holiday, she buzzed and buzzed my doorbell (oldfashioned 90million decibel thing) at 6am, then buggered off for three weeks so I couldnt say anthing!

She went through a short phase of buzzing the doorbell at ridiculously early times of the morning, but that's stopped since I disconnected it at night.

I live alone with my kids and hate confrontation. The scooter issue is unnacceptable really, so I have to do something about it all now.

So what do you think? Would a visit from the police enable her to see how unacceptable her actions are? Or are the police just going to think I'm exagerrating as she's a lonely old pensioner on her own, in a very respectable neighbourhood, and I'm a single parent with kids in a rented house, unemployed, I can just feel the prejudice fermenting already :(

And yes, I have talked to her once or twice about these things, but I am wary of upsetting the apple cart anymore, after all, if she can get a response frm Environmental Health without my knowledge and she clearly despairs of my parenting skills, then what's to stop her complaining to Social Services? Who knows what she's capable of.

After two years, I would say eggshells are definately beginning to line up along our communal path :(

What's the best course of action here before things get out of hand?

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Pancakeflipper · 04/08/2011 14:12

This isn't village life. This is a nasty woman being mean. She needs reigning in.

Natzer · 04/08/2011 14:16

Put in a formal complaint to the Agent saying that they were fully aware of the situation and did not inform you, make them find you an alternative property and get them to cover the cost of your move.

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Pootles2010 · 04/08/2011 15:48

She does sound oddball. Glad your landlord is on your side, thats a start!

I would try and discuss rationally with her, if she doesnt' reign it in, as others have said, you'd be perfectly reasonable to talk to someone at council.

Fair enough about your garden - you've as much right as anyone to use it of course, just wondered!

FWIW, i've yet to see an under five fully under anyone's control...

plinkduet · 04/08/2011 16:07

The kids aren't 'out of control' though. I don't have a screaming tirade of chavtastic sproglings running amok. They both play quietly bug-hunting mostly within their own front garden, typical yelps of joy if playing with the ball and every so often the ball gets kicked into the pebble border next door!

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Pootles2010 · 04/08/2011 16:13

I didn't mean out of control in a naughty way, just that they sound like typical children, being children!

higgle · 04/08/2011 16:17

OMG! On your definition I am an "old dear" / pensioner - can this be true as I still shop at top shop and wouldn't be seen dead in bootcuts or a waterfall cardigan. Seriously, if your perception of her is as an "older person" I suspect she is older. She might have dementia or one of the linked conditions that sometimes lead to loss of inhibition. I think you should mention this to the police and at the council offices.

bonkers20 · 04/08/2011 20:49

What's wrong with bootcuts?

higgle · 05/08/2011 10:52

There are numerous S&B threads about this - around the themes of how to avoid looking middle aged or worse, Bootcuts/linen trousers/waterfall cardigans are usually cited as the worst offenders.

pearl297 · 05/08/2011 11:29

My job involves dealing with issues like problem neighbours and i really feel for you plinkduet. You will have a local Police Community beat manager and PCSO, i would speak to them! These are the kind of issues they deal with on a day to day basis and so they won't think your exaggerating at all. What she's doing definitely counts as anti-social behaviour and is unacceptable, you should not be having to put up with it.

Maybe start making a record of the things she's doing. In my experience sometimes it just takes someone in a uniform to be a 3rd party and act as a go between to come to some solution.

Good luck, hope the situation gets sorted out for you.

bunjies · 05/08/2011 11:36

If you've already spoken to her and she still carries on I would write a letter saying that you will stop your dcs front playing in the front garden but if she continues to harrass you with the noises/ comments etc then you will start making complaints of your own to to Police/Env Health etc. Maybe also quote the law at her re. the scooter and ask her what she's going to do about that.

scurryfunge · 05/08/2011 11:39

I think it has gone beyond mere anti social behaviour.This is harassment involving theft (ball and scooter). You need to make a complaint. Document everything that has happened and make sure it can be evidenced.

Can you afford cctv at the front door?
Are you able to make a proper division between the gardens?

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