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Q&A on our drinking culture with Dr Aric Sigman - ANSWERS BACK

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RachelMumsnet · 14/06/2011 13:51

We're joined this week by Dr Aric Sigman, father of four and author of Remotely Controlled and The Spoilt Generation. Dr Aric's new book Alcohol Nation looks at how the way we view alcohol impacts directly upon on our children's present and future health, well being and academic success. He looks at the latest medical research and effects of drinking from a young age, teen-binge drinking and attempts to answer the question; 'How can I reconcile my enjoyment of drinking with ensuring my child grows up knowing how to drink sensibly?'. Send your questions in to Dr Aric Sigman before the end of day on Friday and we'll be linking to his answers from this thread the following week.

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RachelMumsnet · 27/06/2011 11:22

Bruxeur, although we are open to debate and happy to pass on your question and concerns to Dr Sigman about his methods, we do ask that posters treat all Q&A and webchat guests with the same respect you would treat a guest at your own home. We didn't consider your post to be respectful which is why it was deleted. We now have Dr Sigman's responses back and will be linking to the full transcribed Q&A shortly from this page.

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RachelMumsnet · 27/06/2011 11:44

Dr Aric Sigman has made the following statement in response to the questions about his credibility:

Some of the questions below imply that I am either not particularly qualified or that my background, along with my motives regarding children and alcohol, are in some way questionable. So to make it clear, I do health education for children in schools as part of the PSHE curriculum. My focus is on preventing health problems in children. I am not a clinician who cures existing diseases. I have been involved in health education for over 20 years and with the successive births of my four children, I have taken an increasing interest in child health and wellbeing.

My qualifications are a Bachelor of Science Honours degree in Psychology, a Masters of Science degree in the Neurophysiological Basis of Behaviour and a PHD, not in hypnosis, but in the roles of attention in controlling human heart rate through the use of hypnosis and biofeedback. I gather that by saying Sigman?s ?got a PHD in hypnosis? it is hoped to make mumsnet members view me as some sort of elevated stage hypnotist. While the reality is I spent years in a windowless laboratory with polygraphs, heart rate monitors and signal detection equipment... a far cry from ?Your eyes are feeling heavy. Now you can lose weight and give up smoking.?

I am a Fellow of the Society of Biology, an Associate Fellow of the British Psychological Society and a Fellow of the Royal Society of Medicine. The Science Council has conferred Chartered Scientist status on me. These are not professional qualifications but it is unlikely that these organisations would admit and tolerate members who are either ill-qualified or bring the professions into disrepute.

Regarding me deviously misappropriating research on alcohol and children with bad intentions in order to sell books, it?s important I point out two things.
The first is that both the US and UK health authorities have very clear positions on the effects of alcohol on adolescents.

US Department of Health:

?The short- and long-term consequences that arise from underage [under the age of 21] alcohol consumption are astonishing in their range and magnitude ? Underage drinking can cause alterations in the structure and function of the developing brain, which continues to mature into the mid- to late twenties, and may have consequences reaching far beyond adolescence.?

Department of Health and Chief Medical Officer for England, United Kingdom?s Chief Medical Adviser:
?Our guidance makes it clear that an alcohol-free childhood [under 18] is the healthiest option.?

A large proportion of parents and teachers are simply unaware of these positions, and if they are, they may not understand what underlies their reasoning. My book is intended to help parents and teachers to understand what has led to these position statements and what the best way of protecting our children from the effects of our drinking culture might be.

The second point: regarding me making profits by selling books, if only this were true! Authors like me actually lose money and do not expect to make a profit from selling books of this type. If any of you look at the bestseller list, you?ll see that only a fool would write a health education book with dollar signs in mind. The amount of time and the cost to the author of producing a book like this does not make it a viable method of being a good capitalist. If every one of you in this Q & A bought a copy of Alcohol Nation I would end up with a total of about £5.82 ? less than half the price of a Chinese takeaway. I?ve never blogged, I don?t have a blog, I?ve never used Twitter or Facebook ? I simply don?t have the time, but if I wanted to make money and sell books or ?raise my profile?, I?m told I?m a fool for not doing all of these things as a form of ?viral marketing and promotion?.

On a general note, the way that I arrive at a course of action for any area of health education is of course by looking at empirical research but often ?the data? is not a sufficient basis upon which to make decisions to protect our children?s health. So I try to reconcile the data with other sources of information, in particular I travel to many very remote and disparate cultures, including North Korea, Republic of Congo, Bhutan, Timbuktu, Borneo, Tonga, Burma, West Papua, Laos, Iran, Vietnam, Bolivia, Burkina Faso, Far Eastern Siberia, Sumatra, South Korea, Cambodia and others, where I speak to doctors, nurses and teachers, and occasionally teach at local schools. All of which is very informative regarding universal themes of child health and wellbeing. And I cannot ignore the experiences I have with my own children, their friends and the many children I teach every week.
My beliefs are based on a combination of all of the above and I try to adhere to the ancient medical imperative ?first do no harm?. In short, when it comes to children?s health and wellbeing, it should always be the principal of precaution. Better safe than sorry.

I can?t possibly imagine how writing about my concern for the effects of alcohol on children can be seen as in some way wily, canny, exploitative or harbouring any form of mal-intent. This isn?t quite the same as selling snake oil or health food supplements.

Now let?s get on with the business of discussing children and alcohol?

You can read the full transcribed Q&A here

Dr Aric Sigman Q&A

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swallowedAfly · 27/06/2011 14:19

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flubadub · 27/06/2011 16:33

Bruxeur, I don't understand why you've got involved in this Q&A just to make snide comments about Aric Sigman. It's supposed to be a serious debate and you're just interrupting with really silly comments, instead of asking proper questions. After all, the guy's just giving us useful info about not giving kids alcohol.

I've checked Dr Sigman out and he's totally legit and his degrees are all the right ones, for God's sake, and he's really highly qualified. What's your problem?

And why didn't you bother to check him out yourself?

whomovedmychocolate · 27/06/2011 18:46

Sigman?s ?got a PHD in hypnosis? it is hoped to make mumsnet members view me as some sort of elevated stage hypnotist. While the reality is I spent years in a windowless laboratory with polygraphs, heart rate monitors and signal detection equipment... a far cry from ?Your eyes are feeling heavy. Now you can lose weight and give up smoking.?

Actually we liked Paul McKenna when he came on Grin

swallowedAfly · 27/06/2011 19:43

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whomovedmychocolate · 27/06/2011 20:23

No he didn't. He was really quite funny and humble.

swallowedAfly · 27/06/2011 22:11

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littlemum007 · 27/06/2011 23:10

Bruxeur - well said.

littlemum007 · 27/06/2011 23:28

Actually, I've just checked him out - I rescind my last comment!

Hullygully · 28/06/2011 08:51

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flubadub · 28/06/2011 21:14

He just can't win, can he, swallowedAfly? He gets slagged off about his background whether he's qualified, then when he says what they are, you still slag him off.
I don't think you can be reading the same stuff that I'm reading. All he said about hypnotists is that he isn't one. You should really blame Bruxeur for bringing up the subject of hypnosis in the first place. Paul McKenna didn't have to share his resume on mumnsnet because he didn't get the same kind of vitriolic comments.
How can you criticise a scientist for telling us the, er, science? Isn't that his job?
You're not being fair.

CravingExcitement · 28/06/2011 21:25

PMSL at people thinking Paul Mckenna is humble!
(sorry nothing to do with children, alcohol, or Aric)

littlemum007 · 28/06/2011 22:02

Paul McKenna - Ahhh... I wasn't around then - now he's a man who could really change my life - he should write a book called "I CAN MAKE YOU SOBER" - I buy it - he'd have to have a website and webcam with hypnotic suggestions.... ah, yes, I can see it already..... if anyone's got his number, please phone him.

Hullygully · 28/06/2011 22:03

Why was my message deleted?

swallowedAfly · 28/06/2011 22:05

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Hullygully · 28/06/2011 22:13

No, come on, seriously why was I deleted, MNHQ?

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littlemum007 · 28/06/2011 22:19

Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ---- falling about with a smile on my face for the first time in ages!!!