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RE DISABILITY LIVING ALLOWENCE

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tooly · 21/01/2011 10:29

as you may know the new condem gov wants to change dla into a new benefit called pip and alter entitlements to save money,this was what has happenened to another disability benefit called incapacity or ib,this and the last new labour gov have now called it esa or employment support allowence and whats happening to save money is to stop entitlements to sick and disabled by a campaign of relentless media attacks since new labour came to power in 1997.
There are people who have worked and become disabled that got incapacity and dla only to have it taken away due to new esa all work test,even a man with only weeks to live with cancer had his benefits withdrawn saying he was fit for work?
What ever we hear from this or the last lot we cannot beleave and now everyone on incapacity benefit is going to be reassessed
to transfer to esa where they will have to have the all work test which even cab has said is not working and putting disabled onto job seekers allowence which is about £46 a week less then they was on the incapacity benefit.
Now this is all tied up with dla as changes has seen people lose out and into poverty.

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tooly · 21/01/2011 10:31

Any help with benefits you can go to benefits and work web site and join if you want.smile

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Hossylass · 23/01/2011 12:06

Tooly has outline the very minimum of these cuts.
To summarise;

IB changed to ESA, with as many as 85% being found fit for some type of work. Some 60% of all claiments will find they are put straight onto JSA, totally unsupported.

ESA is time limited. If you appeal they then just reassess you. This harassment continues for ever.
After 12 months on ESA it will be stopped, regardless of your NI contributions. You will then only get ESA as income related, i.e. as income support.
After 3 months of ESA you will be placed on a Work Program. Attendance is compulsory. Any non-complaince will mean sanctions, i.e. they will cut your ESA by 10 %.
Bearing in mind that you could actually be on the Work Program before you even get the ESA medical. You will definately be expected to participate if you are appealing, regardless that the appeal may actually result in you being placed in the support group.
Meanwhile you could have had your benefits removed from you altogether for non-compliance.

ESA redefines disability to make you not disabled. They ignore the WHO and any other group or organisation or individual who presents information that states otherwise.

Moving on to DLA.
Fraud is 0.5%.
They aim to cut DLA by 20%.
No-one knows if this is 20% of payments, 20% of claiments, or 20% of costs.
This means that 19.5% is a cut.
They again are redefining disability. The use of a wheelchair negates the fact that you cant walk under the new PIP.

DLA is an allowance, not a benefit. It is to pay for additional costs of being disabled.
You can get it if you work, if you are a parent, if you are rich, or poor.

The consultation for reform of DLA talks constantly about working. They phrase everything with regard to work.
This is not an issue for DLA.
DLA is for additional expenses.
ESA is about working, not DLA.
They talk about continual assessments, regardless that many disabilities are life-long.
The consultation does not hide the true reasons behind the changes - it cant. It is too obvious why they want to change it.

I will put this from a disabled parents point.
You will be continually assessed.
Your DLA will be reduced.
Your DLA will be used as a yardstick for ESA, and vice versa - this already happens (regardless that ESA is about things you can do, and DLA is about what you cant do.)
Your ESA will be the WRA (work related activity) if you are lucky. However you are just as likely to be placed on JSA.

On JSA and WRA-ESA you will be expected to comply with the Work Program.
After a year your Housing Benefit will be cut by 10%. This is to "incentivise" you into finding work.
The Work Program consultation states that after a year you should be working, not living on life-long state dependancy, and that you have to re-align your expectations.
They are their words, not mine.
Also your ESA stops if you have a partner with significant income.

You may believe that you can appeal. At present you can.
But they are cutting legal aid for ALL benefits and allowances. This year.

If you are the parent of a disabled child the scenario is similar.
Do not be surprised if the criteria for your child seems impossible to get. They will be applying more stringent tests and higher criteria.
One yardstick that Social services use is DLA. If yours is reduced, are you confident that your care package will still be there?
And given the cuts to social services and the refusal to ring-fence, will the money be there anyway?

Imagine that your child's DLA is removed or reduced. You cannot get carers allowance any more. You are no longer recognised as a carer, as your child is no longer recognised as disabled.
Remember - they are redefining disability.
So now you have to sign on to JSA, and experience the Work Program, compulsory work periods and sanctions.
You will simply be another burden on society's budget, not a valued and essential carer who is saving the country millions. You will not be given recognition once they have redefined your child's disability.

And this kicks in when your youngest child is five, not seven, or ten, or thirteen. Five.
At that point you are simply a menace.

From saint to scrounger simply be redefining disability.

Quite frankly it all stinks to high heaven.

I am going to close now, but I will carry on fighting this government, for me, for you, for your children, for your children when they become adults.
I am fighting for a future where disabled people are accepted, acknowledged and cared for, not threatened and demonised and denied.

I hope as many of you who can will join this battle - as a community we are facing one of the biggest battles we are ever likely to face.

Thank you for reading. :)

knowyourrights · 20/02/2011 01:10

The RNIB in conjunction with MIND have a letter which you can copy to your MP against the proposed changes to esa. The campaign includes the time limit of 1 year. Please forward to anyone and everyone you think might be interested!

www.rnib.org.uk/getinvolved/campaign/yourmoney/Pages/esa_concerns.aspx

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Lokovatoress · 20/02/2011 23:17

We need to campaign for dignity for disabled people. I want my DC to work and to have fulfilling lives. But aint going to happen untill there will be a policy for employing ASD people. Inclusion and support in work.

The government say they want to reform DLA to focus on what disabled people can do, but actually they are doing the opposite. They are redefining disability as those who can't do much really. To more functioning of us who want and can work they are actually denying any support. So we are left alone with our children to descend in poverty and face the fact that we are not equal and everything we aspire for is inaccessible.
The right reform should give more support to more functional people so they can indeed stay independent and invest in their skills, support their disabled children. Otherwise what can we do? Hand DC out to SS?
We are just 1% of population, who will listen to us?

Karmalady · 25/03/2011 04:50

Just to note - anyone put in the SUPPORT group of ESA will not have their claim time limited,. nor will they be expected to look for work. :)

knowyourrights · 11/11/2011 21:18

Yes, but it is notoriously difficult to get into the support group even if you are chronically sick and disabled long term.

Pat Onions has submitted an e-petition to the government website. Pat is blind and Pat is also a carer. Pat is calling on the Government to stop and review the cuts to benefits and services for disabled people which are falling disproportionately on disabled people, their carers and families. The cuts are also falling disproportionately on women.

Please sign this petition! We need 100,000 signatures to generate a debate in Parliament!

epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/20968

AgentProvocateur · 16/11/2011 16:46

I've just started a new thread with a link to the new assessment criteria that have been decided as a result of the consultation. It looks marginally better for people that get DLA. Don't know how to link to a thread, but it's in this topic.

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