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polly28 · 26/09/2005 23:12

My ds who is 3 and not potty trained,believe me I tried all summer and gave up .Sent him to playgroup with pull up on .I got a phonecall on friday to come and change his nappy.
I brought him home as it wasn't worth the hassle so he missed half an hour only.

I am going to start training him again next week but was wondering if this is normal procedure in other playgroups/preschool,whatever they're called.

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Yorkiegirl · 26/09/2005 23:14

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oops · 26/09/2005 23:19

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chocolatequeen · 26/09/2005 23:20

How about sending him without his nappy on, and then telling them to make sure that he is put on potty/toilet regularly? My DS went to a nursery school for a couple of mornings a week at 2.4, still entirely in nappies, and on day 1 he did a poo in the potty! Because his class contained other potty trained kids, they all got taken together to go, and he definitely did better at school than at home to begin with - I guess he couldn't make a big fuss in front of other kids like he did with me!!

At some point in the future he is going to have to be in the training phase, so maybe now is the time to give it another go?

It seems a bit ridiculous to expect you to come everytime he gets a dirty nappy - either they should insist on toilet trained kids only, or they have to accept that there will be dirty nappies!

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polly28 · 26/09/2005 23:21

When are they expected to beable to wipe their owmn bottoms?

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polly28 · 26/09/2005 23:24

precisely,even when he is trained I'm sure he'll have accidents as he poos quite often.

Anyone know a way to constipate a child

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MrsSpoon · 26/09/2005 23:27

Lockets my thoughts exactly. My DS2 has recently started Nursery and has wet himself twice (apparently both times when one of the teachers was talking, getting them organised, they think he doesn't like to interupt). Would they leave a child in wet trousers or pooey trousers until a parent arrived?

polly28 · 26/09/2005 23:29

I think they are willing to change a wet accidnet ,just reluctant to deal with poo.

I finsd it all very embarassing,needless to say ds is oblivious,loves sitting in poo

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MrsSpoon · 27/09/2005 14:41

Must say I'm relucant to deal with poo but I didn't choose a career in childcare. I am still ed, thought it was all part of the deal.

NomDePlume · 27/09/2005 14:46

My DD is 3.1 and is still getting to grips with potty training. She is great at home, almost a 100% record in the past 4 weeks, but she forgets at nursery, she gets absorbed in whatever she is doing and then accidents happen. Thankfully she is in the sort of nursery/playschool that is relaxed about these things and happy to be child-led.

Frankly, I'm that a playschool will not change a dirty bum. Surely if you choose a career with pre-school children, toileting accidents/incidents are par for the course ?!

NomDePlume · 27/09/2005 14:47

lol, Mrs Spoon. I didn't read your post first !

jolou1 · 27/09/2005 14:49

Our playgroup takes children from 2.5. Until recently children had to be dry, but the policy has just been changed because they were told it would be viewed as discriminatory against some youngsters, particularly those with special needs. I was told this was a national policy, but maybe not?

NomDePlume · 27/09/2005 14:50

DD's nursery (a term-time, school-hours one) takes children from 2 years old, they do not insist on them being potty-trained.

Gobbledigook · 27/09/2005 14:58

Same here NDP - thank goodness!

Bugsy2 · 27/09/2005 15:09

Isn't part of the problem that once children are over 3 years old, the ratio of carers drops quite dramatically and if one carer/ teacher is off changing a nappy then that leaves them a carer down for however long. I don't think that they mind having to deal with the occasional accident but perhaps not the possibility of daily poo changes. Hence, why alot of them ask for children to be potty trained.

handlemecarefully · 27/09/2005 15:19

Thinks there is usually a requirement to be potty trained for pre-school.

My 3.2 dd doesn't attend pre-school, she is in Nursery for 3 days whilst I work. She has been toilet trained since january. They don't assist with wiping her bum so she comes home with some juicy skid marks in her knickers!

polly28 · 02/10/2005 23:06

thanks for all your messages.

we have been offline for a few days.we are now two days into training ds again.He goes to preschool on wednesday.Do you think i should send him in a pull-up and risk confusing him,or just let them deal with the inevitable accidents and pray he doesn't poo.

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aloha · 02/10/2005 23:09

I was very upset when I went to see the local pre-school and they told me they didn't help children with dressing or toileting. Ds has dyspraxia and he can't help not being great at either. I also feel it is grossly discriminatory.
Thankfully at his private nursery they actually do care for the children in their care.

Lonelymum · 02/10/2005 23:10

I potty trained my ds3 (aged 2.5) over the summer simply because the playgroup he started at in September won't have them unless they are potty trained. You are lucky to have found one that will take your ds in pull-ups IMO.

paolosgirl · 02/10/2005 23:11

I think it's pretty standard for playgroups not to change nappies. All our local ones ask you to have them potty trained - I've known mums who had to postpone the start date because the child wasn't trained. Private nurseries are a different kettle of fish, though.

aloha · 02/10/2005 23:25

I admit I get confused by playgroups/preschool etc. I was referring to the nursery part of the local primary school. The thing we are all supposed to be entitled to send our kids to when they get to three. Grrr.

polly28 · 02/10/2005 23:52

this is a normal playgroup/preschool.It is not attached to a school but it is also not a daycare facility either,just a mornings sessions only ,in the local scout hut nursery.I suppose I could change him to a private one,but

they have all undergone epipen training

ng for my ds as he is their first severely allergic child.They are lovely people and really caring ,I guess I should have been more prepared ,or rather had ds prepared.Itried to train him in the summer but he was completely hopeless.I stupidly thought that if I left potty training till later it would be quicker and easier.How wrong I was,I wish I'd done it a year ago.

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aloha · 02/10/2005 23:53

Don't blame yourself! It's not your fault. You could have tried a year ago and had a year of misery and frustration (not to mention pooey pants).

polly28 · 03/10/2005 00:02

thanks aloha but i am so pissed off with this bloody potty training,can't wait until it's a dim and distant memory.can't remember any of this with my dd!

Maybe I should pull him out and start him again in January,maybe I should offer to help out so I can be there to deal with it?

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Lonelymum · 03/10/2005 09:11

Polly, do you go cold turkey when you potty train? ie take off the nappy and don't put it on again except for sleeps? IME (I have potty trained 4 children) it doesn't work unless you force the situation. I know others will disagree with me but I just wondered if you had tried this.

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