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Very long - DS's change in behaviour

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Curlybrunette · 24/10/2010 20:27

Hi all,
I need some advice on how to handle my 4.7 year old DS's recent change in behaviour. He started school in September, has settled well, and before starting school was generally well behaved (had moments of course!), an normal as any other 4 year old.

Since starting school he has started to back chat and does the most annoying thing in the world in that when I am telling him off he copies what I am saying to him and repeats it back a fraction of a second after I've said it. He actually repeats it back so quickly it's almost skillful, I don't know how he does it but good god it is infuriating. When I am telling him off, if he isn't doing the repeating thing, then he looks away, pulls funny faces and generally seems completely unbothered by whatever I'm saying. I feel like when I've finished telling him off he says sorry because he has to not because he thinks he's done anything wrong.

He has also become a lot rougher with DS 2 (3 next month). Before September they got on usually very well, oviously has arguments at times but because of the small age gap they are into the same toys and tv programmes etc. so have a lot in common. A couple of weeks ago over the space of 2 days DS2 had annoyed DS1 in some way (he hadn't actually done anything wrong, DS1 just decided he had) and the first thing he said was ?I'm going to really hurt you now?, later that night he was having a strop because he didn't want to go to bed so ran up and punched DH, then the next day in the morning he said to DS2 ?I'm going to hit you? and then later on ?I'm going to beat you up?. He rarely actually hits him but I find it almost worst that he is thinking about it enough to say the words, it's not like a sudden frustated hit out. Not sure if that makes sense.

I struggle with punishment with him. Naughty step doesn't work, sending to bedroom ? he will go, but his bedroom is full of toys so it's not too much of a punishment. He did actually hit is cousin today (again really uncalled for behaviour) and I've told him he can't go to his football club next Saturday which he loves (but the club won't be on anyway because of half term! He doesn't know that so is upset about it, but not devastated). I feel like I need a punishment that will actually affect him and perhaps make him think about his actions in the future.

I am generally easy going until they misbehave and then I know I shout too much. I feel like the children should listen to me when I ask them to do something. For example if we are going out then I'll give them a 10 minute warning that we'll be going so and then they'll need to come and get coats and shoes on. Then 5 minutes, then 2 minutes and then I say come on time to go, get your coats/shoes. If they don't come I'll ask again, then will say in a stern voice ?come now please I have asked you nicely and don't want to get cross?. If they still won't come then I just shout at them. I feel like I've given plenty of warning and asked them enough times so I can't help but get really cross with them.

I've read up on tactics on how not to shout but at that moment I just can't help myself.

The incident where he hit his cousin this afternoon has put me in a bad mood with him all afternoon which I know is wrong. To be honest I feel really pissed off with him and want thing to change but don't know where to start.

I had decided he was just knackered from his first half term at school and had planned to have a really lazy week and let him recharge his batteries a bit. If any of you have got school age children do you think it could be that he is really tired???

Sorry this is so long, I feel so cross at him and then so cross and upset at myself for being cross at him that I really needed your thoughts on the situation.

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onceamai · 25/10/2010 03:59

Well I wish I could sleep but I can't so here goes.

Mine are now 15 and 11. Looking back starting school would have been so stressful. When my 15 year old was 4 I thought he was so grown up! Yours are both so young still to be getting ready to go out. Your eldest, for the first time possibly, is with 30 children with a variety of experiences who can't be watched all the time and he is copying what he sees going on. It's really trying for him at school and you at home. But he's only 4-1/2. He's learning what's right and what's wrong. Football's a big thing to take away and next Saturday won't have an impact - it's too far away. At 4 he won't associate next week with something he did wrong today.

Mine always had a very small sweetie ration after tea. OK so not a good habit and not good for their teeth (although neither have a filling) but it's a tiny thing that's important to them and something easy to withdraw when they don't behave at that age.

It's really easy to be shouty and cross when you have two tiny children and no peace and barely a break for sanity. But DS1 is still really tiny and he's dealing with lots and lots of new things. He's probably confused and testing boundaries and maybe trying to push you a bit to make sure you still love him (not consciously of course) because you've sent him away all day to a big noisy school and the days might seem awfully long to him.

Have a great 1/2 term. Try and have some fun and make sure he knows you love him in spite of everything.

January73 · 25/10/2010 09:15

I notice the 1st reply said this and I agree with it. I think DS1 is testing his boundaries with you.
My DD did this when starting nursery school. I found rather than shouting, punishment, etc. the thing that had the biggest impact was ignoring her when she was 'acting out' and acknowledging when she was being good and even her normal self.

I put it down to that when put in a big group of peers, they have to find their place - pecking order I guess and to do that, it's almost like stag butting heads, IYSWIM. ANd perhaps that's what he's doing with DS2 - establishing who's the one in charge?

Curlybrunette · 25/10/2010 12:52

Thank you, I was so stressed last night, hated that I was still cross hours after it had happened.

I'll try and remember how little he is, I guess because he is the big brother I expect more than I should from him.

We are having a lovely day today, a very chilled out movie watching day!

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