quick Q. ok to leave 2.5 year old screaming safely in room?

[pamelat]

for repeated naught behaviour, to include smeaing poo ,waking up (intentionally) 10 week old brother, removing al clothes for 2nd time today and general horribe-ness. Dh treatened her with ed several times and she carried oon so I say we carry it through - she been there 7 minsand is screaming "mummy daddy"

Thing is we always go to her, always "soft" ad she continues to be naughty and last night I got 4 hours sleep with feeding ds and tending to her

know she jealous of ds but behaved like this beforehand. have gone out of way to be gentle gentle and now sick of it

feel terrib;e, its 10 mins now and am going up, so muc for being tougher

I wouldn't leave my DD who is a similar age screaming in a room, we do time outs for bad behaviour, which as per supernanny and others of that ilk you do one minute of time out for every year they've been alive and in a neutral zone (hall for us, never bedroom as don't want her to feel negative about where she sleeps).

Personally I think 7 minutes is too long for a child this age, she'll have forgotten by now what it is she's done wrong! I know she seems like a grown up compared to your newborn but she really isn't, she's just a baby too who can't deal with this unwanted change in her life.

Do you have a system where she gets a time out every time she does something wrong? We find that consistently giving her time outs for unacceptable behaviour is the best thing. Instead of threatening her several times and then giving her an extra big punishment it could be easier to implement and poss more effective? Would a sticker chart work do you think?

Hello Ewe, have "retrieved" her. All gone wrong as went up and had done a poo in her room (toilet trained for a couple of months now)

Told her off for poo but quite gently as feel she just over whelmed and that the poo and wee "incidents" of recent days could be jealousy related

DH is furious with her and now we have fallen out as he thinks I have taken her "side", hugs and talks of park later etc, because I feel guilty

She now seems fine, demanding "daddy clean it" and chattering away.

We tried time out but it didnt work as we would threaten it (prob need to do more doing than threatening of it) and she would just laugh, then you'd put her in hall for example and shed run back to you. Bedroom is the one place she has ever just stayed put.

I dont know its so hard with no sleep, baby and her increasingly bad behaviour.

Feel good cop/bad cop now too

Yes, we're lucky that our hall is pretty secure and she can't really get anywhere. With time out, we don't threaten as such, one warning and then it's out and we put her back as many times as necessary - although I appreciate this is going to be a nightmare with you having baby/being knackered!

Is there anyone who can take your DD out for a bit to give you a time to have a long afternoon nap or anything? Things always feel better when you have had a bit more sleep. Then when you're feeling a bit more refreshed you and your DH could have a chat about how you're going to handle things together?

Might also be worth reposting with something about toddler jealousy of new baby in the title as I am sure loads of people here will have some great ideas, just wouldn't necessarily click on this title iyswim?

Hope this afternoon was better for you all.

Ewe has got the right system I think.

DD is just a bot older than yours but we cannot put her in the hall for a time put as she would keep coming back to us.

So we do 2 mins in the bedroom after one warning. She is learning that one warning is all it takes and mainly adjusts her behavior after the warning now.

Agree about re posting with different title. It seems jealousy is the main issue to be tackled here rather then the punishment,

Hope you get some good advice and things improve