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Lake · 09/07/2001 13:08

I'm 27 weeks pregnant and starting to think about getting a nursery ready.

I've read a few books telling me what equipment I should get but I'd really like to know what "real-life" parents have to say about this. Are there any absolute essentials- anything I don't need to get?

I live in Camden, North London.. can anyone recommend good places to buy baby stuff?

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Lizzer · 09/07/2001 13:58

Hi Lake, as far as furntiture goes I wouldn't personally bother with changing tables as the floor is much easier to change baby on (if you don't have any mobility difficulties yourself) as it means they can't roll off! As for beds, I bought a rocking crib mainly because I thought they looked nice and it was in a sale! I have to say they seemed far more comfortable for baby to sleep in than moses baskets, however you could use the carrycot part of a pram too- if you buy one. I have to say that in my case the crib (although it lasted til she was nearly 6 months) wasn't used all that much as she was in my bed for most of that time, so I'm glad I didn't pay a fortune for it! Incidentally I then bought a cot bed which was recommended to me as it makes for an easier transition into a bed apparently (not that I've reached that stage yet so I'll let you know!)That was cheap too, Mothercare do some very reasonably priced stuff...
Hope that helps a bit, I don't know if you have read them but there are two threads on here you should check out I think they're called "products you couldn't do without" and "products you wish you hadn't bought" they may be helpful to you (I wish I'd known about this site while pregnant!)
Happy shopping and congratulations on your pregnancy, too

Tigermoth · 09/07/2001 14:25

Just to reinforce what Lizzer's suggestion regarding a cot bed. I think this wins hands down over a cot.

We bought ours from Mothercare 7 years ago. It has been a cot, a bed for an up to 6 year old, and now it's back to being a cot again for son number 2. The most useful and hard working piece of kit we own. We used it from the time our first son was 4 months. Even if your baby ends up sleeping in your bed, you know you can still get your money's worth from it, as a bed, later.

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Rhiannon · 09/07/2001 20:57

I'd recommend the type of puschair where your car seat clips to the chassis. Fantastic invention.
Unless you have £100's of pounds don't spend £400 on a 3 in 1, everyone I know regrets it and ends up with a buggy of some sort. Graco do some lovely designs and I'm a big fan.

I've always loved my changing table too. It has been used constantly for both of mine.

Wouldn't bother with a Moses basket or a swinging crib, they look lovely but don't last long.

A baby bath that sits on or in the big bath or just one of those sponges the baby lies on.

Sleepsuits with the cuffs that fold over (built in scratch mitts) this type don't slip off all the time. Mothercare used to do them.

Burp/messy cloths, cotton muslins (lots) (Mothercare) or hand towels.

Don't bother with all the toiletries like lotions and oils.

Nail scissors for those tiny razor nails or you can bite them off yourself as I was too scared to use the scissors!

I loved my Intercom (Tomy walkabout 2000).

As said before don't buy bumpers and quilts as we've all been advised by HV's not to.

You won't need a high chair until 6 months but we found one of those low chairs v. useful (think ours was Chicco) you can use it for feeding or just as a sitting chair or some of them you can rock or put in different lie back positions.

Your local NCT branch should be having a Nearly New Sale at some point. They are usually a great place to find everything. Enfield have a sale on 29th Sept and Chiswick on 22nd Sept but I expect you have a nearer branch. Log on to www.nctpregnancyandbabycare.com

Good Luck

Janh · 09/07/2001 22:26

lake, i would add a babywalker - not for pushing themselves around in so much as for sitting up in before they can sit themselves and having a tray to bash things with - depending on their age of sitting up and crawling they can get very frustrated lying down...once the baby's mobile (whether crawling, rolling, swimming or bouncing on bum) i would stop using it!

3 of my 4 loved a doorway bouncer, and for the 4th i also had a fisher-price floor gym thing - brilliant from 3 - 6 months.

if you do get baby nail scissors get very good quality ones - cheap ones are generally useless. mine are 19 years old and still the best ones we have (when i can find them as they disappear into teenagers' bedroom!)

hope you have a lovely happy baby!

Lizzer · 10/07/2001 08:33

Yeah Lake to add to Janh's message I would be careful with baby walkers as they have a very high rate of causing accidents in the home and are not good for children's development when they get to the walking stage, and they DON'T help children to walk at all -ask your HV she'll have all the stats. You can now buy 'stationary' ones that don't move at all, but baby can rotate round 360 degrees to play with everything on the tray - much safer, but we have never owned one so can't give you a review (anyone?)... Word of warning though, before rushing out to buy loads of toys first work out your child's personality a little, if you have a baby that loves be carried everywhere with you watching what you're doing and hates being plonked with various activities you'd probably work out that something like a babygym or babywalker would be of little or no play value. However if baby loves to sit and amuse themselves for hours then think about getting one! As a 1st time Mum I felt a bit of pressure to be buying the latest stuff around but don't be conned into thinking you need everything going!

Marina · 10/07/2001 08:56

Lake, to add to all the other good ideas here:

If you opt for an ordinary cot rather than a cot bed (bigger, some models don't have a drop side, all depends on your personal preference, but they do last and last), go for the Brio Bedside. This is beautifully made, has a multi-adjustable mattress height and a side bar that glides right over the top of the cot. This means you can have the baby alongside you, but in its cot, and at the same height. Lovely for night feeds, and no need for a basket/crib which are terribly pretty but don't last long. I so wish we'd got one, all my friends love theirs.

A good quality, adjustable low chair is worth its weight in gold. (Someone mentioned Chicco and Graco do them too I think). These are padded rather than just stretched fabric, and cost about £40. But they're worth it, our son was clearly very happy in his and the seat came off easily for washing. It was second-hand from a friend and still looks as good as new.

I'm not with Lizzer on this one - I found it better to have a changing table. Ours had a hinged lid with a baby bath under it. A bit of a faff to empty but still useful. The table (the sort with cupboards underneath, very sturdy) is now used for storing toiletries, vests, swim nappies etc, and in no way looks out of place in a toddler's room.

Slings - we had a wilkinet and a Baby Bjorn, both good, both second-hand (Rhiannon is right about those NCT sales, support your local branch!). We used them daily.

Transport - we had a from-birth Maclaren buggy which served us really well (we lived in a flat but walked everywhere!). The Opus range, if still available, is good quality and comfortable for newborns. I used to envy my friends with their smart Graco Voyagers but they said the pushchair was not so good for older babies and interestingly they've all bought little buggies as well.

The thing our son loved best in his room was a gorgeous tinted perspex mobile from Ikea, in the shape of stars, moons and a central "planet". Cost pennies, looks a million dollars. That retail hell-hole is well worth a look, as others have said.

Even though I breastfed we found a steam steriliser invaluable straightaway for breast pump gubbins etc. Boots do a good one.

Oh, I could go on for hours. It is such fun furnishing a nursery for a first baby, don't be too sensible and stern with yourself (I am sure you won't be).

Good luck and happy shopping.

Harrysmum · 10/07/2001 08:58

They have a Graco stationary baby walker thing at Harry's nursery and they all adore it. I think that they just like standing and can be quite independent in this - we didn't buy one because it's a nursery thing for him but would definitely recommend it once (s)he has grown out of the baby gym stage (which Harry also loved).

I would recommend my Britax 3 in 1. Living in the frozen wastelands of the north (!) and having a winter baby we took Harry everywhere in his pram (it also doubled as his cot for the first couple of months) so that he could be cosy which he definitely couldn't have been in his car seat attachment. I also have personal doubts about scrunching a baby up for extended periods of time in a car seat and think that they are better lying flat.

What else? Cheap chest of drawers from Ikea which I had great fun painting and is the right height to act as a changing place. Musical mobile for bedtime. Reclining bath seat from Blooming Marvellous - amazing thing which means they feel the water all round and you have hands free for washing and playing. Nice new pyjamas for hospital (make b/feeding v easy & discreet).

Good luck!

Alison222 · 10/07/2001 09:30

Used the carrycot from the pram for the first few months as a bed (got a mattress for it) but didn't last long as baby was so big when born.
Cot bed is great so far but as only he's 7 months we're along way off using it as a bed. Found that the top of a chest of drawers was fine as a changing table - just have to have one hand on baby all the time but you soon learn. Steriliser invaluable even though breastfeeding. Lots of muslin cloths and bibs - you'll be surprised how useful they are.
John Lewis in Oxford street was good to see stuff and get demo's although we found some internet sites cheaper when actually buying.
didn't get too much use from the baby bath - he grew too quickly but am using a seat which fits in the big bath and leaves my hands free long enough to wash him before he wriggles off it - its just a piece of towelling strung on a frame
clip on arch to strech over the carrycot/cot...
I could go on for ever.
Spend lots of time reading catalogues and then just buy the bare essentials - you can add to it later when you discover what you need rather than buying stuff that you never use.
People will give you clothes and toys once the baby arrives so just buy essentials like vests and babygrows and then add to it once you know how big baby is and what else you need.
Have fun planning

Rosy · 10/07/2001 12:48

Lake - you should have known better than to ask a question like this - you'll never get us to shut up. I know I'm repeating a lot of what's already been said but here goes.

Borrow a Mosesbasket/carrycot - our daughter was in a proper cot at two weeks.
We spent £50 on a sling and £10 on a buggy when our daughter was 6 months old. Because we don't have a car and travel on the bus alot, this suited us. The huge pram I'd been given by my sister was only any good for strolls out.
We liked having a bath and used it for quite a few months, but it would probably have been easier to borrow one as they take up so much space afterwards.
As everyone else says, buy the bare minimum of clothes. People we barely know bought us clothes and toys, and it was a pity that we didn't get to use some of them very much. Even now, my mother & grandmother in law would dress our daughter completely if they could!
Toys: you can't stop other people but don't be taken in by these all singing, all dancing rattles and things from ELC. They're far too big and advanced for them until they're much older. When my daughter was tiny the best thing she had was a £2 rattle from Superdrug that was small enough for her hands to grasp. And a bee wrist rattle. Until she could sit up, she sat in a baby bouncer or car seat, or lay on her back with a babygym. Ours was a very simple Fisher Price one with interlinks, which I found much better than the fancier ones they had at Toddlers.

That's enough to be going on with. Best of luck!

Joe · 10/07/2001 13:17

My son has a swinging crib and a moses basket and hardly slept in either as he was in bed with us and now he is in his cot bed, so if you can borrow one you wont feel you have wasted money.
Our best buy was a £2 rattle from mothercare that kept him quite until we got home for a feed and Avent massage oil was something my mum bought and it is lovely. A nice fleecy blanket is a good buy. My son didnt like having big coats or snow suits on (wore his suits maybe 3/4 times one never) so I used to put layers on him when we went out then tucked him up in his blanket with a hat on, he was alot happier and cosy as toast.

Duck · 10/07/2001 20:04

What a topic to start- you'll have all of mumsnet involved!

Take up offers of loans- especially for thing which you'll only use for short periods like cribs- you will find people are incredibly kind. I agree you shouldn't buy clothes for at least 6 months- the wardrobe in the nursery is better stocked than mine! Talking of wardrobes if you have space buy an adult one with shelves so that toys can be put away.

Always buy a new car seat- it's not worth the risk. If you can face it there is a report in this months edition of "Which" but the best thing is to go somewhere that will let you try it in the car before you buy. We found that there were only a few seats which fitted our car and this affected which travel system we bought. I agree with Rhiannon that the carrycot is great for naps and when the baby is up to 3-4 months old but we are about to buy a lightweight pushchair so don't really need the one that clips on the chassis but the car seat attachment is fab for quick shopping trips etc. I also think that muslin clothes are wonderful- buy lots. Steam sterilisers are better than the microwave ones- Mothercare often have special deals.

We also think our nappy dalek (Sangenic) is great- saves endless trips to the outside bin with little "parcels". However, you may be planning to be green and not use disposables. The foam bath support (available in John Lewis) is great.

Finally, there is a book called something like "Best Buys for Babies" which is now a bit old- it was published in 1999 but it outlines what you need to think about buying and has product comparisons.

Hmonty · 11/07/2001 09:03

I think most of my thoughts have already been covered. Ditto on the buying things second hand/borrowing.

One thing to add - Don't bother with one of those purpose made changing bags. They're so unnecessary. You can use any bag you have around (I'd recommend a ruck sack style as it keeps your hands free) and you can buy separate changing mats (mine came from Blooming marvellous).

Oh and mine two adored a musical mobile we bought from Mothercare (I think). It kept them quiet for the duration of the wind up.

Cawthorne · 11/07/2001 09:05

Don't bother with a bottle warmer - son refused to breast feed but was kind enough to drink milk at room temperature ! If your pram has a carry cot part you can use that and then move straight to a cot so I wouldn't bother with a crib. I found the baby bjorn invaluable so when he wanted to be held I could get on with jobs.
napisan - can't do without it if you want to keep whites white, that and a bucket and all vests get thrown in there until I do my next white wash.
We never bother with nappy bags either, we end up with so many carrier bags from the suppermarket that I just use those, put a few nappies in them then sling them out the window and fish them in from the garden later !
The best moisuriser for new borns is olive oil.
Oh and we didn't bother with a baby bath, we got one of those frames they can lie on in the bath which seemed much better since I hated holding him when he was soapy because I was terrified of dropping him.

Hmonty · 11/07/2001 09:20

Top tip for legoland is that if you book the tickets in advance you get a discount (£1 a ticket I believe). Doesn't matter when you phone up. Firends phoned from their mobile as they pulled into the carpark and still got the discount (and a shorter queue)

Hmonty · 11/07/2001 11:58

ooo err. Don't know how that got onto this discussion board! I'm sure you won't be off to legoland just yet....

Sheesh · 11/07/2001 12:19

Wow!What a response...I really enjoyed furnishing my nursery with its all matched turquoise colourscheme.

I recommend a Cotbed...still plenty of room now at 15months & our is Olympia by MamasnPapas which has a drop side & adjustable mattress height so it will last & last so well worth the extra money.

Also had a Changing Table with Bath Underneath very useful & saved a lot of backache as I am now discovering changing her on other peoples beds!
Sturdy Plastic Bath Seat from Blooming Marvellous with adjustable slider to vary with your babys size.

Biggest waste of money...a Baby Swing...lovely but shortlived get one second hand likewise Baby Bouncers!

Sitting Up Chair evn a cheap Mothercare one very useful for small babies

Mind Shapes by Tridias a set of Ball Cube & pyramid with black/white & bright primary colour & different texures & rattles to interest baby in a handy to carry about case...best present of a
toy from my Mum!!

As for Cribs/Moses Baskets....last no time at all so ask around the family ...mine had done my sister-in-laws 3 kids & my sisters little girl before us so OK I had to buy a new mattress but the best bit was I had mine customised by getting a lady to make up a moses basket set in fabric to match my nursery. I used my local MamasnPapas stockist which was Mums Delight in Swaffham, Norfolk & they couldnt have been more helpful & put me in touch with a lady in the North of England who sewed the stuff & sent all the other co-ordinates for my nursery by courier. FANTASTICSERVICEDISTANCENOOBJECT...ask for Nigel.

Enjoy your nursery!!

Lisaj · 11/07/2001 19:32

I agree with Hmonty about not bothering with a proper changing bag - rucksacks are much better and usually cheaper (got a great one from H&M for a fiver).

My son loved his bouncy chair, which he spent hours in and was used for months. I bought a cheap one from Tesco's, although you can buy more expensive ones with toys etc attached. My son also loved his Tomy Light'n' Lullaby, which plays a lullaby and shines images onto the ceiling. However, it did seem to use batteries quite quickly, so I just use it without, so it just plays the lullaby. He still has it every night when he goes to sleep and he's now over two.

Also cotton muslins are excellent - you can never have too many!

Guddy · 12/07/2001 17:27

To add a few.........bouncing cradles,my son loved it...actually still does he is 5 and a half months now.Ours is deluxe vibrating cradle from mothercare.This was handy when he started weaning too.
Im looking for a high chair any suggestions from all u mums!i have short listed chicco and prima papa.

Julieg · 12/07/2001 21:54

Hi
Funnily enough I had started making a list the other day of things to recommend to a friend - so here goes....
I read the Baby Best Buys book too and found it a good starting point as I knew nothing about babies - and I second ( third?) what has been said about second hand/borrowing stuff - often things are as new and there is SO much you could buy it makes sense to save where you can.

I read the Contented Little Baby book by Gina Ford - and altho I was a bit sceptical to start with - and I also regularly broke her rules - I ahve ended up a big fan - and much of the book is good, common sense advice - I'm really glad I read it.
The travel system thing is also a MUST - a car seat that will fit onto chassis/buggy. Spend a long time thinkinga about this one and trying things out in the shop - I wish I had!
Black out blinds for the nursery to stop baby thinking that dawn means getting up time.
Galt play ring - ABSOLUTEY wonderful.
Baby walker - as dangerous as you let them be in my opinion - and my 6 month old LOVES hers
Napisan - as someone has said - gets stains out ( carrot for eg) that no other stain remover does)
Baby sleeping bags - from 6 months - stops them kicking covers off
A large piece of plastic table cloth material as nappy free play area
Homeopathic teething granules from Boots also for colic - Colocynth granules 30C or Chamomilla 30C or Cina 30c from www.helios.co.uk - suggested by a GP friend and have been seen to work wonders
and definitely a door baby bouncer
If you're intending to breast feed then fork out ( if you possibly can afford it) £70 and buy a breast pump from Ameda who make the hospital ones - it does both breasts at the same time in about 5 minutes and is quite painless - I had an avent battery pump before and that was agony and took forever.
Best of luck
julieg

Janh · 13/07/2001 12:48

julieg mentioned black-out blinds for the nursery, which reminds me, get some of those sunscreens for your car windows; i keep one in each door/seat back pocket, you never know which window will need one!

Pupuce · 16/07/2001 16:55

HELP - Can anyone suggest where to buy chest of drawer/dresser - wide enough to put a changing mat on top - at a reasonable price ??? I can only find stuff over 350 GBP... I am looking for a white one as well (this is making my search harder I think).
Baby is due in 3 weeks and I have yet to find it!!
Thanks

Ems · 16/07/2001 17:27

Pupuce, I think IKEA will have what you are looking for, unfortunately it requires a visit to a store. They do unfinished drawers that you can paint or varnish yourself. They do a simple open drawer unit (in the pic they've put in nice wicker baskets) and then you can buy their changing table top 78 x 72, H11cm for £25, which looks good.

White 6 drawer chest £199 (110x51, H132cm) with extra deep drawers, looks good. I know Laura Ashley do a nice white range, but expensive. Have you looked at M&S or Next?

I've got the IKEA catalogue on my desk here, so if you need any store locations or numbers let me know.

Pupuce · 16/07/2001 17:33

Thanks EMS,

I have already furnished DS's room with IKEA so I will go back again this week but last time what I bought was the only thing I liked.... maybe I'll be luckier this time. I haven't tried M&S and Next - I will.
Thanks