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Rachel1969 · 20/06/2001 18:07

Hi All
I've been chatting here for a while now but sometimes feel as though I can't come on just as a mum because of my job as a journalist - it's so hard to switch off from work when I spent half my life writing about the subjects that we talk about here. Also I don't feel I have the anonimity that you all enjoy to talk freely about whatever problems etc I have because I;ve told everyone where I work - all you need to do is open the Mail most Thursdays and my ugly mug will be staring back at you.
So ... I've decided to sign off as rachel1969 and come back under a new name so that I can be a mum when I come on here.
But what I was hoping was that anyone who would like to be on a database I have of email addresses through which I send out cries for help on all the wierd and wonderful parenting/women's issues the Mail has me working on might send me their own emails.
If you do, don't tell me your chat name on mumsnet or you won't be anon yourselves anymore - do you get my drift??
I have a huge list of contacts who I email out to every week or so asking if they know anyone who might be relevent to what I;m working on - if they don't they just ignore it, if they do they help me out.
If anyone does fancy it - it can be quite amusing if nthing else, then please email me at [email protected]
Take care all
Rachel

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Jbr · 24/06/2001 20:03

Thanks Star. I just can't understand why anyone just in general (not on here before anyone says) would not see everyone as being the same and would say that person has to do that because they are a man or that person can't do that because they are this or that. I fell out with a friend once because she went out with this well sexist pig is the only word that isn't swearing I can use. I could never put up with a man who said "You aren't having a pint". It sounds trivial but what other prejudices would someone like that harbour?

Jbr · 24/06/2001 20:06

I'm sorry if I have caused any trouble but the amount of times I have rowed at work are unbelievable. I did an article last year and I was supposed to write another one about should gay people be parents. I told them no because I wouldn't say should straight people be parents. I thought I was going to get kicked off the rest of the assignment but I wasn't. In fact, they even printed what I said to the boss when he asked me to do it. It was like a separate feature on why there is so much prejudice in the world. It was only a local rag but I felt like I had done some good.

And Rachel seemed nice so I couldn't understand why she would work for the Mail.

Alibubbles · 24/06/2001 21:46

Mumsnet seemed to full of light hearted banter and exchange of view and ideas, all of a sudden there seems to a lot of discord and upset. The threads are not very pleasant to read any more, as every single one seems to have been attacked by a certain person who seems to have great big chip, (not problem or difficulty,) great big chip on her shoulder as big as McDonalds. I have suffered from depression, I don't think of it as a difficulty or problem, it's a fact of life, especially when life is a rollercoaster when self employed, I am devoted Telegraph reader, Mail on Saturday and Sundays, but inclined to read the mail whenever I can, I think it is a very good paper, and their financial advice is very sound. I just love the Telegraph crossword and have done it every day since I was 11 as my father told me it was time I stopped doing the kiddy crossword (the easy one) and taught me to do the hard oner, I remember many a day sitting curled up with him, even to the age of 18, we still do it now when we get together !Lets get back to being pleasant and talk of other subjects. - Like, Tigger, how are you cattle faring these days, I am more concerned about this sort of thing that affects innocent people like farmers and their families, if anyone has problems farmers must, they're the one I feel sorry for. Kind regards to everybody.

Jbr · 24/06/2001 22:31

Ok then I give up. Let everyone be racist, homophobic sexist and any kind of ism you like. It is not a "chip" it is something everyone should be concerned with.

Emmam · 25/06/2001 07:55

Can we say you are 'daily mail-ist' then jbr?

Tigger · 25/06/2001 08:35

Jbr, chill out, you are getting far to stressed. Now I am a farmer with major Animal Welfare problems, we can't move our cows to grass and we have cows starting to calf again. What would you say my "job description" was without being offensive. I'm a farmer, Treasurer of the Under Fives and Mother and Toddlers, on the Local SNFU (National Famers Union Scottish), I like a pint of 80 shilling beer, smoke like a chimmney, were Nora Wellies, swear, get bloody angry and get sooo stressed with paperwork etc it is unreal.

But, many people think that because I get my hands covered in shit and lamb ewes and calf cows that I am thick, why are there still stereotypical people out there. Calm down and don't be so defenseive all the time, this would be a very boring site if everyone agreed with everything you said, and being honest I think that some of your comments are good and some are well and to the left.

Lisav · 25/06/2001 10:12

It would be so nice to live in a society where nobody was ever judged because of their colour, creed, sexuality, job, etc. Jbr, you yourself have judged Rachel because she works for the Mail, why can't she work for the Mail AND be a nice person?

We all come onto Mumsnet to get support and advice on the difficult subject of parenting. Sometimes it's nice to just let off steam too. It's difficult to get your message across sometimes as we don't have the advantage of body language here, so expressions can be so easily taken out of context. Such as mental illness, which can range from depression, to severe schizophrenia. I suffered from ante-natal depression very badly, I would term it as a 'problem' because it affected my husband, family and friends. In seeing it as a problem, I knew I could solve it, which after treatment I was able to. I understand how some people don't like the term 'problem' and that is fine, whatever works for them!

So let's not judge each other because of where we work, or whether we have a mental illness or not. And Tigger - I feel for you right now, it must be a nightmare being a farmer in this country. My hubbie used to farm too - now he drives Diggers for a living, not very mind stimulating but he is SUCH an intelligent man, wasted really. I admire you Tigger for doing so many things, I admire anyone in the farming business right now. I hope all goes well for you and hopefully this f&m crisis will be over soon.

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Tigermoth · 25/06/2001 12:11

Batters, Lisav, I'm with you!

Jbr regarding the vocabulary that we use in messages: Please remember many of us don't have all the time in the world to compose our replies. We are sitting in a busy offices or, if at home, have children demanding our attention. Do you ponder over every word that you write? I certainly don't.

Your messages often appear as rather spontaneous reactions to other contributions. And spontaneous is what you get back.

Twinsmum · 25/06/2001 13:44

Hi everyone. I read most of the papers every day because of my job and I enjoy all the goosip in the Daily Mail. Particularly love the articles about mums who have £45,000 to spend on make up every year!!
There's enough in the world to get uptight about without worrying whats in the media. If you really don't like something then read/watch/listen to something else. There's enough choice out there.

Tigger · 25/06/2001 15:13

£45,000 on make up!, bloomin heck, (mild version!)
I love farming and all my other interests, and we have an impending birth, Ermentrude (yes thats her name)as in the Magic Roundabout, the Limousin cow, is due to calf any day and is getting quite cross with my husband looking up her bottom every day!!, in fact she snorted at him today and turned her back to him!!.
All jobs are different I think I should just go out now and get some more make up, now where did I leave the visa card ...........

Janh · 25/06/2001 16:32

tigger, doesn't she realise turning her back on him is not the best defence against an arm up the bum?
talking of £45K on makeup - did anybody here see "can you live without...?" about the designer family in cheshire?
loved hers - hated hims - those are plurals by the way! - that mother probably spent thousands on makeup too (before the programme).

Rhiannon · 25/06/2001 16:47

Janh, I saw that but only half of it so can't comment too much. I don't know if she worked but he obviously felt he had appearances to keep up at work. Very interesting watching.

Emmy · 25/06/2001 22:02

I can't beleive it- forget to check in for a few days and look what I missed!!! I have so much to say about all this that I just can't say anything cos you'd all die of boredom before I was through! Well that'll teach me to neglect Mumsnet won't it.........

Emmam · 26/06/2001 12:52

My God you must be ugly to need £45k worth of make up!!!!

Lisav · 26/06/2001 13:26

Tigger - has she calfed yet? My husband used to drive me mad with his bloomin' cows! He used to be a dairy farmer and has calfed quite a few cows in his time, so when I was pregnant he was forever comparing me to his cows!
In fact, when I was breastfeeding it was worse! I'm surprised he didn't try to start pumping me himself! (ooeer! That didn't come out quite right did it!)

I read an article about that designer couple - how sad. Only people with zil personalities feel the need to hide behind designer labels and cake themselves in makeup. I used to know a few, they knew nothing about what was going on in the world, but they certainly knew where to get the latest Jimmy Choo shoes!

Janh · 26/06/2001 14:29

lisa, did the article say anything about afterwards? because the wife was genuinely affected by it all, was in tears when all the stuff came back saying "this is obscene!" and gave half her stuff away to charity. and she said she was disappointed in her husband - that she knew he had no real strength of character (he cheated!) but was sad about it...poor thing!

what happened after that we don't know though. (or do we? anybody?)

Midge · 26/06/2001 20:49

Going back a few messages here (sorry) JBR I just want to say that sometimes your messages are thought provoking, sometimes I feel its a valid point you have made and sometimes they are just downright exhasperating (cant spell!) but gosh it would be dull if we all lived like sheep and agreed followed each other around baaaing all of the time.
I like this site because its not just about how to be the better parent, its here to make you think and to be supportive and informative where needed. Also agree with the earlier message re not having time to spend too long on any detailed thoughts - or spell checking!

Lisav · 27/06/2001 13:18

No Janh - it didn't say what happened to them afterwards. To be honest, I don't really care!

Tigger · 02/07/2001 13:05

Lisav, no Ermentrude has not produced yet, and is now at bursting point, my husband has stopped "haunting" her bum and now lets me walk across to see her.

Lisav · 02/07/2001 14:14

Surely she must be way past her due date by now! What are you going to do? Caesarean? Inducement? Cod liver oil? I'm worried about the poor thing now!

Marina · 02/07/2001 15:22

I think she should be treated to a curly kale vindaloo and allowed to have lots of sex with her favourite bull. Poor old Ermintrude, and in this heat too. Hope all goes well Tigger.

Tigermoth · 02/07/2001 16:31

Ha Ha, Marina, Curly Kale vindaloo ..Ouch! Is that an Annabel Karmel recipe?