John Leslie programme

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Anyone planning on watching?!

I am trying to get across that you guys are judging her on her persona and appearance, whatever he was accused of does not matter - an offence was commited against her and that was wrong.

Women have been fighting for god knows how long to believed when it comes to rape and assault, they are torn to peices in court and accused of being slut and wanting it - when most of the accusations are not taken to court because the CPS think that a woman saying she has been raped or assualted is not good enough!! Many more are not reported because women fear that there past will be brought up or they will be painted as a scarlett woman by the defence.

Please do not judge someone in cases like this - whatever they behave like in everyday life should not be an issue - the issue is the fact that they were assaulted and are scared and damaged and want the perpetrator punished and stoppd from doing this to anyone else!!

This is copied an pasted from a website I found:

INDECENT ASSAULT ON A WOMAN
It is an offence for a person to make an indecent assault on a woman.
(S14(1) Sexual Offences Act 1956)

Many acts of serious sexual violence against women will come into the category of indecent assault rather than rape, because they do not involve penetration of the vagina by the penis e.g. penetration of the vagina by any other object such as a bottle or a ringed hand.

Indecent assault on a man is a separate offence
(S15(1) Sexual Offences Act 1967)

The maximum penalty for indecent assault on either a woman or a man is 10 years imprisonment.

Boe... as much as you want to defend Ulrika by saying : an offence was commited against her and that was wrong.

That was not proven... SHE says she was assaulted but she never brought up charges.

I have no problem with what you are saying BUT there are also women crying wolf to whom nothing happened and sometimes men (or women) go to jail based on false accusation.... not talking about present case.

As an aside I have met JL and he was very nice -

nobody agrees with rape Boe and Im sure everyone agrees that rape is disgusting on any woman or man-whatever the victims charachter. Sorry about the 'dirty' comment felt bad as soon as I posted it.

I just thinnk that you should not judge either of them - Ulrika did not name John Leslie and maybe was assaulted - what I am trying to say is that most people on this site said disparaging things about her, someone mentioned what they have read and seen her act like - rape and assault had nothing to do with her actions - they were perpetrated by him (if it was him).

Do you no think that one of the reasons she did not bring charges is because of her public image and she thought that because of this she would not be believed. That people would judge her like a few people here are doing.

six years ago she didnt have the reputation she has now but hasnt he got a reputation for having loads of women too?

everyone is innocent until proven guilty arent they? I suppose come what may of the trial but I do think even if someone is proven innocent of a crime like this it is a very difficult accusation to shake off. I hasten to add I do not think like this but unluckily alot of people are narrow minded

No Sobernow it is someone else.

Thanks Pie. This is a very grey area and in some cases you never know what went on and yes I agree it is harsh when you judge someone ie prostitute but I'm sorry I have 2 accounts from people who declare JL a nice decent bloke and several that say Ulrika is a man eating devourer (don't know if that's spelt right). Noone asks or deserves rape but it's easy to cry rape!

Exactly.... there is no proof that she was raped.... yes she went to hospital and was in a bad state so we presume she was raped.... still (and this has nothing to do with the way she looks) she may not have been raped or indecently assaulted !

Just thought would resurect this one after recent developments.

I am appalled by his behaviour and selling his story to the press - all this 3 in a bed stuff and I am not attached bollocks - what about his poor girlfriend who has stood by him throughout???

I saw two girlfriends last night who both work in telly - they both said that before you ever meet John Leslie you are warned not to stand still at the risk of being palmed up by him.

Cannot see how he is ever going to sue Ulrika as she never even uttered his name.

And I think that if his girlfriend thinks he'll marry her now, she's a fool. Mind you I think she was a fool to stay with him despite the fact that he is tight (she paid half for everything despite being a nurse and he was earning a packet) and constantly unfaithful.

Just think that the way he is now speaking about women and sex in general shows how little respect he actually has for them.

And as for the 'My Cocaine Shame' headline in the ES the other day - this I am sure is because he is not at all ashamed but because ITV actually have got away with sacking him by saying it was this and nothing to do with the allegations. Sure he would not be at all remorseful if he had not been caught.