Manners / car rage

[ThomCat]

I've been enjoying the eating in supermarkets and parking in maother and baby spaces when you don't have a baby conversations and wanted to start soemthing on manners when driving, or in general really.
Does it infuriate anyone as much as it does me when you pull in for someone and they drive past without so much as a nod of the head?
Also I was trying to pull out onto a road last night, turning right, so getting through one lane and into the other, and the car behind me beeped. I looked in my mirror and this woman was shouting 'Just bloody go'! Go where? Did she want me to just pull out into the fast moving traffic and hope the cars driving towards me slammed on their brakes in time to prevent me and DD being crashed into??!!
Why are people so rude? I come across bad manners whilst driving at least a few times every week.

thats why i dont drive it will really bring the worst in me,i already suffer from pedestrian rage and stick my fingers up at drivers who dont stop in zebra crossings,well and if i lived back in spain ill be walking around with a shotgun,grrrrr

What I hate is when I have my ds in the car and someone pulls out and I have to slam on my brakes, obviously what that women wanted you to do thomcat, before I had chance to say something the other day ds replied "bloody idiot". Oops.
Not sure who that was from.

Personally, I hate the ones who drive in the middle of the road and then give it all the big-ons because you force them over because the road is big enough for 2 cars.

and the people who cant get through a gap because they are mis-taking there poxy mini for a sherman tank or something.

and the ones who do not stop at crossings.

and the ones who speed down roads where kids play.

Hmm better now

and the people who when filling their cars up with petrol have to wait for the pump to come free the side where their petrol cap is, it does reach round the other side you know.

aaah well, Breeze - sorry to disappoint you but I am one of those who waits for the petrol pump the side of my cap as I drive a Toyota Previa and NONE of the pumps locally to me will stretch round the side of my car!

And for the rest:

people driving tiny, tiny cars who think there isn't enough room to pass when in fact I can get my Previa through with masses of room

oncoming traffic who don't wait behind parked cars - which means I then have to slam on the brakes as I am approaching

people who don't indicate

people who don't seem to understand which lane they should be in when at a roundabout - and then proceed to cut everyone up on the way round

the prats who insist on driving right up my a* and then almost smash into me as they haven't noticed me indicating to pull into my drive.

Oooh, I could go on all day about this - but one thing that DOESN'T wind me up is people parking in Mother and Child spaces when they shouldn't - I seem to be in the minority I gather.

Slinky, I don't worry about that either, saying that DS always makes me go up to the top of the ramps and down the lift.

The petrol thing I was more referring to cars where it does reach.

At Christmas in the Noddy grotto, my toddler sat in Noddy's car shouting 'Get out of the way you moron'.

I'm just proud I remember to only say moron.

Thomcat - this thread brings out the worst in me! Get really mad at all the aforementioned things. Round here, we've a few windy lanes which you can use to shortcut big main rds. Was using one such lane earlier today, and always go down really cautiously as there is a real nasty blind bend, and cars often shoot up the opposite direction, causing you to slam on the brakes as you don't see them til last minute. Anyhow, as I inched my way, just past the blind bend, a BMW came shooting up, driven by a well to do older blonde woman, with a younger man sitting next to her. It was just at that point in the rd wher one of you has to back up/down to let the other pass, but who it is is debatable - I usually just back up (tho' is difficult round blind bend) to avoid problems. Anyway, was just putting car into reverse, with this woman glaring at me (obviously just expecting me, in my poor mans car, to move), when the man beside her did a really patronising wave of the hand - a bit like a 'shoo' signal, as if to say move away. Well, that was it - there was no way I was going anywhere. I sat tight, and would happily have done so for hrs, glaring back. Silly woman had to move in the end - hurrah! Fiat overcomes BMW

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Nobby, that's so funny! It could have been so much worse

Oh Thomcat you must have met me. I am a psychopath in a car. It's awful to admit but I undergo a personality change when I get in a car and instead of my normal temprement (rude, opinionated etc) I become unbelievably cross with everyone on the road for the most minor things. I get the most cross with people who get cross with other people (eg was in a traffic jam yesterday, there was a poor learner two in front and the bloke in front of me was getting really cross and shouting, nearly got out and lamped him. Needless to say as soon as he turned off and the L driver was in front of ME it was a different matter)

Oh dear, I should be taken off the road. Also I drive a boy racer car much too fast and never slow down for corners. Maybe I should change my nickname b4 I post!

The worst case of road rage I had was when I was retuning from a day trip out - there was about a 1/4 mile stretch of road which was very narrow with just a few passing spaces. I was about 3/4 of the way down this in my Renault Espace (5 kids in the car) when this old dodder with wife comes the other way in his Mini Metro. There was a passing space only a few yards behind him so I gestured that perhaps if he reversed a bit I could squeeze into the passing space which was on the left hand side, and then he could pass by me. He gestured to me that I should reverse, which would have meant nearly 1/4 mile as there was no passing space behind me. I pointed out the space behind him again. He was getting a bit annoyed at this stage. He had a wife (presumably!) with him who was remaining commendably cool. I got out of the car and very calmly explained what I thought the best solution was - explaining that there were no passing spaces behind me and the difference between the amount of reversing that would be needed. I explained that I was more than capable of reversing all the way back but that it would take about five times as long. Eventually with much huffing and puffing he agrees to reverse. In the end I wished I had reversed as it took him probably 10 times as long as it should have, with his long-suffering wife beside him, AND he pulled over into the passing space so I had to pass on the right hand side. A complete lunatic - shouldn't have been out on the road. I was p*sing myself laughing - the humiliation for him in front of his wife

Where's the rage judetheobscure? Sounds like ACAS should give you a job if you think that's rage!

There is a very narrow bridge near here, leading to one of the villages, and I would not live there if you paid me, I would have ulcers.

The approach road in both directions turns a right angle in a dip to go over the bridge (it should have traffic lights really) and it is perfectly possible if 2 cars are just in each other's blind spot for them both to land on the bridge at about the same time....

2 problems - if you get a stupid old git like jude's he will not back off, even if you were halfway across when he got there, and even if there is another car behind you; and if 2 of you arrive at about the same time, the one who does back off is then completely unable to tell if anything else is coming - I have done the approach-and-back-off as many as 3 times in a row.

Grrrrr.

Agree with pretty much everything on here already. "You could get a bleeding bus through there!" is one of my choicer phrases. There are a lot of divvy old drivers round here who don't know who has right of way at roundabouts, and will not turn right off a main road until there is nothing coming the other way. I know it's better to be safe than sorry but honestly, if they really can't tell how fast an oncoming car is going they shouldn't be driving.

Oh, and people waiting to turn right who don't even put their car into gear, apparently, until the oncoming car is already past.

People who don't indicate on roundabouts, especially.

Men who hate being overtaken by a woman and have to overtake back ASAP.

Sambo M - sorry, must have deleted the sentence where "old git" turned apopletic and was f*ing & b**ing - dh came in in the middle of my post and distracted me ....tsssk.
So it was his road rage, not mine.
However, that's not to say I don't get extremely annoyed by other's driving - mainly to do with similar things where people in small cars can't get through enormous gaps. I do enjoy swanning through in the people carrier after them.

Heeheehee - you lot wouldn't last five minutes in Jakarta. The driving here is appalling and the congestion makes the M25 look like the Marie Celeste!! All traffic rules appear to be advisory, with most people making up their own highway code. But no one ever gets road rage. When there's an accident, which happens all the time, people inspect each other's vehicles, smile ruefully and drive off into the sunset.

The funniest accident we've seen was one involving a motorbike with three live ducks on the back. The driver got his backside soundly pecked when he got back on!! Then there's the man who does TaiChi exercises while riding his motor bike and the goat sellers who transport goats on mopeds. Also, the 11 seater minivan bus that crashed, with 37 people on board and the traffic boys/Thugs who will kick in your headlights if you don't give them some dosh in return for them holding up traffic to allow you to turn right or whatever. Oh, and a toddler fell out of the car in front of us, one day! Thankfully, DH's company supplies us with a driver so I can sit back and watch this never-ending entertainment!

I ahte it when people drive right up behind me, not leaving a big enough gap. Drives me mad 'cos it is so dangerous. And, no I don't drive slow so that isn't the reason. They do it on the motorway and on normal little roads too. Why????? And - it is normally middle aged men - not omen, not teens, not new drivers.

Driving in NZ is somewhere between surviving in London traffic and Jacarta. think they hand out licenses to everybody on 17th b'day. Love this site because it all makes my blood boil.
No indicating anywhere
overtaking on inside esp on motorways (legal here - like Brands Hatch)
Driving below speed limit then acccelerating when I am trying to overtake (part of driver training here I think)
blocking cars who want to turn right from side street when you can't go anywhere (what is the point!!!!!***)
Thinking tank can fit into spcae mini minor would struggle with
etc. etc. etc.
Also have stupid road rule here...if turning left must give way to oncoming traffic turning right except if car behind you going straight ahead....how many cars have I nearly driven in to the back of at 100kms because they don't look in their mirror, assume you are turning too because nobody indicates etc
ARRRRRGGGGGHHHHH
Not relevent but while ranting why don't people get money/cards ready at checkouts do they think one day they are going to get goods free
Also applies to passes at tube
why is it when am in hurry always get behind somebody who cannot walk more than nanosecond/hour
could rant forever so will go
Feel better now though until get in car in hour
I am of course perfect

Nobby at your ds and the noddy car. Mine got out of my car at a friend's house when he was about 2 and told her there were lots of 'tossards' on the roads. My list:

Van and lorry drivers who pull out without indicating
People who don't back down on country lanes as you all say, annoys me too
People who don't say thanks when you reverse down a country lane. I agree with most of the others here too.

I don't drive (I can, just don't have car) but what REALLY annoys me is people who accelerate when traffic light turns red or just pretend they haven't even seen the traffic light, especially when it's just for pedestrian crossing. I mean, these stay red (for cars) for about 10 secs (and that's also another gripe: why so short? what if a little old dear who can't walk that fast is trying to cross? But that's another story...) so why can't they just stop? It's not as if 10secs is going to make any difference, with the congestion we have here in London.

realised I had to stop swearing while driving after witnessing ds, having tried - and failed - to negotiate a corner on his toy car, exclaiming "oh 4 f's sake."

Bad mummy, naughty mummy, go to your room.

I also hate all the commuters who park in my road.

And cyclists who believe that the highway code does not apply to them. Particularly those that jump red traffic lights.

people who won't stop while you are crossing the road in front of them even if the pedestrian light is green

people who park on pavements so I have to push the pram down the middle of the road

the imbeciles who paid loads of money to renovate the roads but didn't bother with the pavements so they are so badly cracked it is impossible to push a pram down them

the real twits who decided to build a kiddies play area (one of the only ones I've seen) in the middle of a roundabout
on one of the busiest intersections in the city - probably so we could all admire it!

can you guesss I don't have a car?

Nooo sibble, that left turning rule is SENSIBLE. Otherwise you are left restricting the flow of traffic and being dangerous. It makes a lot of sense.

My particular bogey is the non use of indicators. I have a theory that people don't use them to imporve the resale value of their cars "Indicators never used!" My brother drives a BIG motorbike and once was cut up by a guy who turned into his driveway right in front of him. Fortunately it was a surburban street and said brother wasn't going very fast, but still it was touch and go wheter he would come off. He parked his bike, calmly went up to the guy's front door (all 6 foot 3 of him in leathers), knocked, and when the guy answered, said "I thik the bulb in your indicator's gone, you should get that checked out."

Can I join in and rant about cyclists? The ones out on busy, narrow roads after dark with no lights who lurch off the pavement (!) or out of side street without looking. I am a cyclist myself, but one of the dull ones who stops for red lights and doesn't cut up prams and old ladies on pavements. Maybe this is a problem peculiar to my part of the country?

People you don't say "thank you" when you let them in to the flow fo traffic or do something else. Just a wee acknowledgement would do! I'm turning in to my mother and say "thank you" out loud on their behalf!

When I lived in NZ (nearly 20 years ago) I'm sure the driving age was 15. And the driving standards were atrocious!