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Can someone explain Che Guevara to me please?

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StripeyKnickersSpottySocks · 08/03/2009 09:48

I watched the Motorcycle Diaries last night and thought it was a great film. My knowledge of Cuban politics, etc is a bit sketchy and all I really know about Guevara is that he helped Castro overthrow the Cuban regieme, the Americans weren't very happy about it and tracked him down in Bolivia and executed him.

I'm guessing that Castro and Guevara had their reasons for wanting to take over Cuba and thought they were doing a good thing. I read on Wikipedia that Mandela and Jean Paul Satre both thought that Guevara was a good person. They're the sort of people who's opinions' you'd generally respect.

So what's so different about Castro and Guevara invading a country (and killing people in the process) and someone like Hussain invading Kuwait? Obviously the Americans weren't happy about Kuwait being invaded either, but a lot of people seem to hold Guevera up as a revolutionary icon wheras Hussain (quite rightly) was despised. Was it a good thing that Castro and Guevara did and if so were the Americans wrong to kill him?

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mollyroger · 08/03/2009 10:01

It's because Che was cute and rode a motorbike and looked good in a beret, innit?
The power of being photogenic overrides the reality of the evil he did....
Other people however see him as the revolutionary who abandoned his profession and his native land to pursue the emancipation of the poor of the earth.

StripeyKnickersSpottySocks · 08/03/2009 15:38

But was it evil? Or was he liberating the masses from cruel dictators and giving them the land back, etc?

Have just ordered a biography to try and make my mind up.

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moondog · 08/03/2009 15:47

Jury is out.
Some love him, some hate him.

mollyroger · 08/03/2009 19:34

I like to think at first he was libearting the masses etc but then, as usual, power went to his head....

KerryMumbles · 08/03/2009 19:36

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noonki · 08/03/2009 20:06

He and fidel (and a lot of others) overthrew Baptista who was a dictator (kept in power by the help of the US government, who like their neighbours to be as rightwing as possible to ensure that they have someone who will trade with them).

Cuba was in a terrible state:

Health, education, poverty all at terrible levels.

Some huge percentage of women worked as prosititutes.

The country was very heavily stratifed along race lines.

After the revolution he worked in government (can't remember doing what), he was very into socialism and along with the rest of the new government strived to make an equal society - they did a lot for women (even creating a law that said that men had to help doing housework - not that it had much effect) they created anti-racism laws, increased education to stupiod levels, created an amazing health service (life expectancy higher than USA whereas before it was in the lowest in the world)

Che was killed (with the help of the USA)after trying to start a revolution in Bolvia.

So he became a hero. DIed young full of wonderful ideals.

The problem since has been that to keep to the socailist ideal is pretty hard when your neighbour wants to kill your precident and sets trade embargos on anyone who trades with you so apart from USSR cuba was pretty much cut off.

Also the government has been accountable for some terrible human rights breaches (freedom of speech, v.controlled economy, ropey legal system, big brotherish)

When I ws in cuba the feeling I got dfrom people was that they were pleased for what had been done but felt it was time to change and allow capatism into the country so that their levels of living and freedom to choose could rise.

god sorry about the essay.

Basically he robbed from the rich (and killed off a few of them)

gave to the poor,

died young

wore a fab hat and hence has made lots of money for capitalist pigs in the west!

Tn0g · 08/03/2009 20:13

One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist.

Guevara was a hero to many and lives on in an iconic fashion.

An interesting, complex character.

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