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question about privately renting

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CapnJadetheKnife · 01/11/2008 19:42

looking at moving into private renting after xmas.

Will it be a problem with 3 adults (1 couple and 1 single) and 1 child?

It's kind of a non-traditional household I suppose and wondering whether it will be a problem to landlords.

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CapnJadetheKnife · 01/11/2008 19:43

btw the single is not a relation.

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firsttimemama · 01/11/2008 20:14

Yes it can be more of a pain as the property will have to have HMO status if all adults are included on the tenancy (as you are not related). Perhaps the couple could take on the tenancy and allow the other adult to live there, this might make things easier for the landlord but it could bring other complications. Good Luck.

TheArmadillo · 01/11/2008 20:18

oh crap.

I didn't realise HMO covered it if there were only like 2 groups.

If we took on tenancy as couple and allowed 3rd person to live there - would that not cause probs re subletting?

mankymummy · 01/11/2008 20:18

i've rented out property before and i wouldnt be bothered. as long as the tenants on the agreement went through the checks ok.

TheArmadillo · 01/11/2008 20:20

thanks for these btw

It might depend on landlord then?

Will check out HMO regulations.
And subletting ones.

Thanks

SalBySea · 01/11/2008 20:21

my building only allows "single family units" and our free holder has to have details as to who we rent to. we could not rent to 3 un-related adults as he would consider that a flat-share and flat shares arent allowed here

FAQ · 01/11/2008 20:22

Under the changes in the Housing Act 2004, if a landlord lets a property which is one of the following types it is a House in Multiple Occupation:

  • an entire house or flat which is let to three or more tenants who form two or more households and who share a kitchen, bathroom or toilet (for a definition of household please see the
Flightattendant4 · 01/11/2008 20:24

Lol. You can all move in with me and my landlord if you like.

sorry I am not much help. Perhaps try calling the council on Monday and asking someone there? They are pretty helpful at ours lately.

iheartdusty · 01/11/2008 20:25

so if you all 3 make one household - ie you shop & cook together & share bills- it will not be an HMO.
SalbySea makes a good point.

FAQ · 01/11/2008 20:27

what constitutes a household

TheArmadillo · 01/11/2008 20:37

have checked out shelter and according to them then "Your landlord must register their HMO with the council if it is at least three storeys high and contains five or more people. The council will decide if a property meets an acceptable standard and then issue then register the property as a licensed HMO."

from here

Which means for us they would not have to be licensed as a HMO.

Am I right?

according to definations we would be counted as 2 households.

Erm I would love to contact the council but I erm work for them and don't really want collegues knowing my private business.

TheArmadillo · 01/11/2008 20:40

Thanks very much for all this

very helpful.

As far as I can see we would count as a HMO because by definition we are 2 households, but the landlord would not need to be licensed as a HMO owner as we are not enough households to need it. But I wonder if it would cause problems with their mortgage company.

I think we may cause some probs with landlords anyway as they may not like the situation.

I really don't want to split our household up unless there is no chance of getting a place as we are

I think it may be just trying it and seeing what happens.

SalBySea · 01/11/2008 20:40

contact a different council then - if you just ring up with a question, they wont know that you dont live in their area

TheArmadillo · 01/11/2008 20:45

good idea!

I will do that.

iheartdusty · 01/11/2008 21:10

careful - some councils have applied a selective licensing scheme which basically means they have voluntarily extended the rules to all HMOs in their area.

iheartdusty · 01/11/2008 21:11

I meant to add, so if you ring up another council you might not get the answer which applies to your area.

TheArmadillo · 01/11/2008 22:09

will bear that in mind thanks

you lot have been really helpful, thankyou for all advice.

boogeek · 01/11/2008 22:14

We let our house to a trio of students when we were abroad - they were adults and we didn't have to do anything special (apart from repair everything they broke ) so we didn't give a monkeys. Don't know if that helps.

TheArmadillo · 01/11/2008 22:24

ta boogeek - glad to hear you wouldn't be put off.

I think what I'll do is get dp to phone up and ask advice (cos we have diff surnames) and then have to see how it goes looking for places.

Thanks muchly everyone.

TheArmadillo · 01/11/2008 22:25

and sorry for namechanging half way thru thread and not saying anything

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