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Is it possible for a person to be black with blonde hair or chinese with red hair, for example?

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MadreInglese · 11/09/2008 13:10

Please help me answer this question for my DD.

(talking natural hair colour of course, not dyed! )

I have never seen a non-white person with naturally fair coloured hair (but of course that doesn't mean there aren't any) is it a possibility? If not, can anyone maybe enlighten me as to why it's not possible/rare, is it to do with dominant/recessive genes?

I hope my terminology hasn't offended, but I couldn't answer for her and as MN is such a wealth of different cultures I hope someone can help.

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Kewcumber · 12/09/2008 10:23

Thanks bythepowerofgreyskull just being nosy really! Strangely although the kazakh dominant ethnicity is northern chinese/mongolian DS often looks very like hong kong mixed race children. I plan do do a DNA test one day when he's older (and able to consent) to see if it will shed any light on his genetics/race.

SoupDragon · 12/09/2008 10:28

You need Tamum, she might be able to answere

TinkerBellesMum, you do not get boy/girl identical twins!! Nor can you get black./white identical twins. They are fraternal (non-identical) twins.

thumbwitch · 12/09/2008 12:34

not true - you can get black white identical twins - in one, the melanin is defective and it would be albino.

And we had a whole thread about identical boy-girl twins fairly recently... can't remember a lot about it but it's not as impossible as it seems.

suzywong · 12/09/2008 12:36

Plenty of Aboriginal kids have white blonde hair, but that is a lot to do with the climate. Usually gets darker as they get older. And they would have some European genes from way back but have very dark skin.

suzywong · 12/09/2008 12:36

Oh, and Mr Wong often has bright ginger hairs in his beard.

Sadly, I noticed a white one this week. The old bastard

SoupDragon · 12/09/2008 12:39

Identical twins are formed from a single egg fertilised by a single sperm which splits in 2. How can this end up being one boy one girl??

SoupDragon · 12/09/2008 12:41

(answer: Turners syndrome)

IndigoMoon · 12/09/2008 12:48

dd goes to school with a girl who is mixed race. when i first saw her i thought how gorgoues her colouring was cos she has the most beautiful auburn coloured hair! it almost looks dyed which her mom has since told me she gets asked a lot.

her dad is black and her mom is white. the girl looks very white though to the point that i did not realise she was mixed race until i saw her dad. her brother is very fair as well.

i also worked with a woman whose husband was black and her children were mixed race but with freckles and ginger afro-style hair.

it is all to do with recessive genes though i am not sure i have ever seen a fair chinese person.

chipmonkey · 12/09/2008 13:52

But Turner's syndrome is a girl with only one X chromosome, Soupy. Wouldn't you get 2 girls with just one X chromosome each?

And isn't albinism inherited? How could identical twin have albinism and not the other?

schneebly · 12/09/2008 13:58

Ooh I babysit for a beautiful little boy who is mixed race - he has caramel coloured skin, big chocolate brown eyes and golden toffee hair. It is just so lovely to me because my husband and I and our kids have very similar colouring - fair skin, fair hair, blue/green eyes.

SoupDragon · 12/09/2008 14:17

Chipmonkey, according to the brief look I had, the girl with turners is an embryo that started out male but lost the Y chromosome. so yes, they are a girl with on ly one X but it's because they lost the Y.

chipmonkey · 12/09/2008 14:23

I didn't know you could lose a chromosome like that!

bronze · 12/09/2008 14:31

To my knowledge turners is a girl who has partially or wholely lost one x chromosone. DD was tested for it when she was born and I spent the two weeks we had to wait (ahhh) researching what it meant.

TinkerBellesMum · 12/09/2008 14:59

I started writing a reply then read the rest of the answers. With boy/girl identical twins it starts as a male egg and when it splits the Y goes completely one way.

chipmonkey · 12/09/2008 15:33

So in that case the other baby would have to have Turners, wouldn't she?

SoupDragon · 12/09/2008 15:49

No, because the other baby is a boy.

SoupDragon · 12/09/2008 15:50

"in the case of mixed-gendered identical twins, which always begin male, the Y-chromosome disappears, and science has offered no explanation for it. As a result of losing the Y-chromosome, the male twin becomes female with an XO DNA chromosome pairing. The name for this condition is called Turner's Syndrome."

TinkerBellesMum · 12/09/2008 16:04

The girl would and the boy would be healthy.

TinkerBellesMum · 12/09/2008 16:07

I'd love to see pictures of identical boy/girl twins, just to see how identical they are.

SoupDragon · 12/09/2008 21:06

These are apparently identical boy/girl twins

SoupDragon · 12/09/2008 21:07

Another set

Blandmum · 12/09/2008 21:17

Skin colour is controlled by at least 4 different genes, each of which has 4 different variants (or alleles)

This helps to explain the wide range in skin colour from the Blue/back tones you n=see in the sunniest parts of Africa to the milk white skin you see in colder parts of the world!

Traditionally dark skin would have 'gone with' dark hair, but with the increasing amount of movement between different parts f the world and great mixing of ethnic groups the blonde with dark skin is becoming more common. (and bravo sez i!)

When two genes are located closly together on the chromosome (called linkage) then characteristics are inhereted as a 'package'

chipmonkey · 12/09/2008 21:42

Aaaargh, got fooled by the bat! But wow, those twins! Definitely identical and so cute too!

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