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Dreading going to the In-Laws

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Chiccadum · 02/02/2003 05:40

Does anyone else out there dread going to their in-laws. I do mine. Although I could have done alot worse she is a pain. I don't see much of her thank goodness but get annoyed that she can go 6-7 weeks without seeing her grandkids and when she does she has a go at me for shouting at or disciplining dd1 who is 3 1/2 & is going through a very naughty, dare i say obnoxious & wilful stage. She also lets dd1 get away with messing with her food and when i tell dd1 to stop messing and eat or she will go to bed M-I-L tells me to leave her along in front of her so dd1 plays up even more, if i do stand up to M-I-L as i have done in the past she doesn't speak to me or the kids then. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhhhhhhhhhh

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jac34 · 02/02/2003 06:37

As my MIL lives in Spain and we live in Wales, when we visit, we usually end up staying for a few weeks.Which I don't mind at all, as I get on really well with her.
However,this year my parents want to come as well,and my Mum drives me nuts !!! Dh and I can forsee the pit falls of spending a holiday with both MIL, but hope they will all have a good time.
Our parents all get on very well, and really enjoy each others company.I know my boys will absolutely love having them with us,and who knows, DH and I might get the odd night out on our own.I think it might work if, I have a word with my Mum(she's a bit panicy with the kids), and get her to calm down a bit.
Anyway, we shall see !!!!

jac34 · 02/02/2003 06:43

Oh yes, one of the reasons I get on so well with my MIL, is that she hardly ever passes comment, on how we handle the boys, and if she does, it's usually quite constructive. She is a wealth of wisdom, having had 6 children herself, one of whom is menally and physically disabled, so she does know what she's talking about.

Chiccadum · 02/02/2003 08:56

We get on generally but she seems to think that things are the same as they were 40 years ago.
When i discipline my dd1 she always butts in and tells me to leave her alone which i don't appreciate. She also spoils dd1 rotten. I understand that grandparents do spoil their grandkids but my MIL teaches dd1 bad habits, once my dd1 was in town & creating, stamping her feet and screaming for a video she had seen, my MIL just went and bought her it to quieten her, if dd1 had been with me she would not have got it. Anything dd1 wants now she just creates and knows Nanna will buy her it, i don't like it as in my eyes it shows a lack of respect to grown ups which she should not be learning at such a young age.

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breeze · 02/02/2003 09:27

I am completely the opposite, i love going to my in-laws, and dread going to my parents, my mum constantly gets and me to the point when my mil gets upset with my mum.

Have you tried having a quiet word with her, or asking dh to have a word as to not undermining you.

Chiccadum · 02/02/2003 10:02

The last time he had a word with her (for smoking in front of ds1 & ds2 & blowing it their face) she didn't speak for about 4 weeks. I have tried to talk to her myself but she thinks that she is always right and that is it. Dh doesn't like saying anything to her because he is still a mummy's boy at heart and doesn't want to upset her and he has admitted to me that he knows what she's like, he always says 'she's like that with everyone' as she has a horrible habit of speaking down to people as well as interfering.

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Lindy · 02/02/2003 21:11

Short of refusing to visit her there's probably not much you can do, if your DH is unable, or unwilling to make a stand. I read some advice in Christoper Green's book (Toddler Taming) which made the point that short bursts of being spoiled or permitting unreasonable behaviour isn't going to cause serious problems in the long run - I appreciate that it's not ideal at all but the other option is probably completely falling out, possibly also with your DH, which could cause even more problems?

I do sympathise with you, (fortunately!?!) my in-laws are both dead but I do know that my DH finds visiting my parents a real strain, so I usually go alone! Good luck

Chiccadum · 02/02/2003 21:15

Went to visit today and it wasn't all that bad, i tend to keep away and let dh take dd1 & dd2 because i know something will be said or done i don't agree with. Although i am only 29 i still do have some old fashioned standards towards, children, discipline,respecting elders,manners, education etc and do not like being undermined, especially in front of my children.

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eidsvold · 03/02/2003 08:46

Ohh I am sorry Chiccadum - my MIL is fabulous. ALthough we don't see a lot of them. SHe spoils my dd ( 6 mths) rotten but at this stage she doesn't know she is being spoilt. She never says anything about how my dh and I care for my dd. I am dreading a few weeks time. My mum is fine but as she lives in Aus and we livein the UK she has not seen dd yet and we are off for a trip inabout 8 weeks. I am not sure how my mum will react or what she will say..(dd has down syndrome) ..I know she was good when my neice ( 8 mths) , bro and SIL stayed with her but who knows she thinks me SIL is fabulous ( which she is ) and I am afraid my dd and I will come in for a lot of comparison. I guess I can survive by telling myself it is only for a short period of time!!

Holly02 · 03/02/2003 08:54

Eidsvold I hope your trip to Australia goes well and that you enjoy the time with your mother. Have you always had a good relationship with her? If so, I'm sure everything will be fine - although my own mother tends to be quite opinionated about how I do things with ds. Sometimes I think our own mothers are worse than MIL's because they don't hold back!! My mum just tends to say what she thinks and always seems to have an opposing view, which irritates me no end at times. Anyway all the best, hope it goes well.

jac34 · 03/02/2003 09:09

My Mum is always saying things that irritate me, thats why I'm hoping everything will go well when we go away with her.
We went there for lunch yesterday, and I did have a quiet word, about being over protective of the boys. She did not seem to mind,and said, "Oh, it will be my holiday, I want to chill out, I'll try not to worry".Somehow though,I think this will change when she see's them swimming under water !!!!

Queenie · 03/02/2003 14:19

Both my mil and fil annoy me. Luckily they live miles away. I have suggested however we visit them at easter, after all, they are my children's grandparents and my dh parents. If they were not I would never choose to be in their company. MIL is a martyr to the world but underneath quite conniving (spelling??) and fil is a pain in the bum - selfish, biggotted, racist, sexist and downright rude. I was going to be induced with ds on the monday and he rang on the sunday and didn't even ask how I was - he said "Ullo, he is there?" and wanted to takl to dh about something obscure! When they came in October to visit our new baby boy DH had to take them out everyday so I could relax. Fil gave dd (just turned 2 at the time) his glass containing aspirin for her to drink. He left the gas on and nearly gased us all while he smoked outside the back door (forced him to do this). He let his wife carry all the cases and when she asked for a hand he said she shouldn't have packed so much. He called her thick in front of me and kept saying the f word in front of my dd. My dh had to admit my dislike was founded and suggested we visit them this time for a short 4 days. When fil left to go home he didn't acknowledge me so the feeling is mutual I guess. How they produced such a reasonable human as my dh I will never know. I admit I hate him and despise her martyrdom _ "Oh I don't mind, sighhh" attitude.

CookieMonster · 03/02/2003 15:16

Lindy,
you mentioned that your dh finds visiting your parents a strain and that you go on your own .... do they live close enough to travel there and back in a day or do you stay? My parents live about 4 hours drive away so we have to stay. I am in a similar situation where my dh can cope if my parents visit us for a weekend (but only by much imbibing of alcohol) but is really not comfortable visiting them. I would love to go and see them on my own (with dd) as I could then relax and enjoy the weekend without worrying about him 'being OK' all the time.
Do you (or anyone else) have any suggestions as to how I could go about this without offending my parents (they think dh is OK with them) and also without putting dh's nose out of joint. I have suggested it once before only to be told it would just emphasise the rift and make it difficult for him ever to visit again ...

Lindy · 03/02/2003 16:25

Cookiemonster - my parents do live a long way away (8 hours drive!!) so I also have to stay a few nights to make it worthwhile. My DH often works abroad so that is when I tend to go & see them (or they come & stay) - that way it is easy to say I appreciate the company; we have just all had to be very honest & I do say 'I'm sure you understand but DH would rather spend his holidays with just DS & I' to my parents - they appreciate this & prefer to see me alone anyway!

Not so easy if you don't have a DH who travels a lot I agree - BTW he's not a total monster (honest!) he can act politely for short periods when we are all together!!

The best thing about all this is that I now have the perfect reason for not spending time with his boring friends!

Lindy · 03/02/2003 16:28

Cookiemonster - just had another thought, could you arrange a weekend trip when your DH has a prior engagement - is a sports fan?? or something like that, so that there would be a valid 'reason' for him not accompanying you?

jac34 · 03/02/2003 16:28

Cookiemonster,
You could ring them with a date, far enough in advance that they might not have made plans, and say DH is going away on buisiness/conference, you don't want to be alone all weekend, so could you come to stay.

CookieMonster · 04/02/2003 09:07

Lindy and jac34, thanks for your replies. It really would be better if we could all be honest about the situation but I fear that since it's been going on for 2 or 3 years now it'll never come out in the open.
Unfortunately he's not a sports fan so his weekends are always spent at home with me and dd ... he is sometimes away overnight during the week but only for one night. I think I might have to take a couple of days holiday myself, tell a white lie to my parents and say that I have holiday left to take and he doesn't. Maybe that way everyone will be happy (but I doubt it )
By the way, back on the original topic, we have no such problems with me and mil - she's potty but great!

muffet · 04/02/2003 13:41

Ok never chatted in a chatroom before but I just thought I would add some perspective to this.

My partners parents...er interesting, father crazed alcoholic and drug abuser who tipped up at our house 6 weeks after our son had been born, more drunk than could be conceivable. He tried to get us to open up, and kept banging the door, then threatened to kick it in. This was at midnight, he then proceeded to come back intermittentantly at 1am, 3am and 4am, before there was action taken by my partner to remove him from the premises. He since for the umpteenth time looked like drink was going to finally kill him, this and the vast array of drugs he has consumed. So I took the decision to offer my partner some comfort by giving him the opportunity of taking our tiny, gorgeous, wonderful boy to meet his Dad personally. It made me feel sick, but ultimately my partners father is ill, I want no contact, but I would not deprive my partner the opportunity to acquaint his son with his father.

My "MIL" is what can only be described as depressive, she has negativity to contribute to every situation (in context clearly her life has not been easy). I think she found my partner as a child/adolescent difficult to live with and so is intensely supportive of me, but she and her son are close too. She is kind to me and she is a nice person and when we announced I was pregnant she was delighted but said enjoy your time now because you will never be as happy again. Honestly it makes you laugh. Fortunately despite some highs and lows (often induced by sleep deprivation) we are happy.

She has made comments about, dummies, foods, our child probably being TV starved (8 months). She doesn't mean it, she adores him but is just not able to express spontaneous positivity. She will never roar with laughter or say you guys are great parents, we get on, but I find her so lacking in warmth.

All this is made more difficult by the fact that on Christmas Day 2001 my healthy Mum of 67 died. I was 5 months pregnant with my first child and what would have been her first grandchild and I lost her in the space of 16 hours. She was about to finally understand that we were not so very different, that being a Mum would be the most amazing experience I had ever had and that I loved it, that I wasn't a "businesswoman", which despite my protestations she didn't really get. So all those people who do find their Mum's intensely irritating, but deep down just love them heaps. Honestly do really think about the small things and whether it's worth falling out, or whether its worth finding a less confrontational way to resolve. I know it's easier said than done, but I know I would dearly like that option to the one I now have, where nothing can be said and no experience shared, with the person who looked after you in the middle of the night and built their day around keeping you happy.

And on to the MIL, I don't take away from it that some MIL's can seem to be downright manipulative and intensely unpleasant, but do like I do and take comfort from the other people you have close to you and forgive your parents in law their fallibilities. I have forgiven my boyfriends Dad, but he just scared the ass off me and I don't want to be around him, but I think ours is an extreme case.

The one thing that makes me sympathise with the lot of the MIL, is I hope one day to be one of them, and I'd hate for my son and his theoretical family to dread seeing me. I guess there are lessons for us all. God I'm probably going to get thrown out for spouting all this stuff on a talkboard but hey ho.

Lindy · 04/02/2003 13:54

Goodness muffet (welcome to Mumsnet) you have an awful lot to put up. You've made a really good point about how we might end up as future mother in laws - I would hate to think I might turn into an interfering MIL (or mother) - actually I think i'd be one of those ones who stayed away - I was horrified when a friend said to me recently (our DS's are not yet 3) - I'm really looking forward to being a grandmother & looking after the grandchildren!

Cookiemonster, don't lose hope, my DH & I didn't reach this 'honesty' situation until after 10 years of marriage!!

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