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Regret not having children

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LaLaLeylandii · 04/05/2025 21:40

It's a bit of a weird choice to write this on Mumsnet, but here goes.

I was with my partner for 16 years. We fell in love intensely in our early twenties, moved in together in London within the year and within two years had moved to a city in Scotland where I knew no one, but where his family lived, so that I could study.

After 4 financially stressful years, I got a job in a city down south where neither of us knew anyone. Suddenly I had the income to buy a house and finally feel like my life was getting started at age 27!

We never married and from a young age we'd been averse to the idea of having children. In retrospect, I think that was just our young age. Most of my friends didn't start having kids until their mid-thirties for career and financial reasons (demographic: professional/academic/creative) so I didn't feel much pressure.

Life in the new city was good from the POV of work and the house but boring and often lonely. I missed my friends in London and felt like I was missing out. My salary was much much lower than my London friends, and even though it stretched further outside of the capital, I felt my life had gotten much smaller.

When my friends finally started having kids, it was during the pandemic and I couldn't see them. Still, I began to have doubts about whether I really wanted to be child free. The problem was, the thought of having a kid terrified me and made me feel horribly sad and trapped. When I tried to explain to my partner how I was feeling, he said that if I wanted to have a child, 'I would have to find someone else.' This was in the middle of the coronovirus lockdown. My contraceptive implant was about to run out, so I told him we should use condoms for a while so I could think about it. During this time, he never said anything supportive or encouraging. Eventually, I went to the doctor and had my implant replaced.

For the next two years I repressed the thought of ever having kids and became more vocal about the wonders of being child free. I started travelling frequently and made extensive repairs to the house.

In summer 2023, my Dad had a fall and I began to experience a panic about not having kids. I'm an only child and I was 38 at the time. The problem was I didn't feel like I could talk to my partner. I had an idea. I could go to the doctor, have my implant removed, and see if I became pregnant. Then, if I did, I could tell him it had run out but I'd been too busy to notice. I had recently forgotten to MOT my car so a mistake like that was plausible.

One month after removing the implant, my mother became ill suddenly and 6 weeks later died of cancer. I basically went insane for three months after that and in the fall out, I told my partner what I had done.

I'm obviously ashamed of tricking him in this way, and I know if a man did something equivalent to me I would feel violated. I think it's probably a crime to lie about using contraception.

However, I think I must have been fairly insane to have come up with the idea, and to have repressed the desire for children for so long. In reality, the terrible sense of dread I felt every time I imagined getting pregnant was more a reflection on the state of the relationship with my partner and my feeling trapped in this city and in my current job, which hasn't challenged me for a long time.

I terribly regret not having children and not making my Mum a grandmother. At the same time, I am so very glad I don't have a child with my partner.

I've now sold the house and I'm moving back to London. Because we weren't married and I paid the principle and for the renovations, I am taking all the profits. Its value has doubled in the last ten years. I am also retraining in a much more lucrative profession. I froze my eggs a few months ago and got 12 viable eggs.

Why am I writing this here? I guess my learning points are:

  • as a woman it is absolutely essential that you are financially literate and have decent savings so that you have an exit strategy from a relationship. It's sad we didn't get married but now all my assets are 100% mine. Make sure you know your rights and have a 'get the hell out of there' fund.
  • I respect everyone's right not to want or to have children. However, in my case I realise these feelings were contextual and determined by the quality of my relationship and my life. In another situation, I know I would have wanted a child.
  • even if you're a feminist and a highly independent thinker, it is ridiculously easy to internalise your partners values/ideas/wishes and make yourself believe they are your own. I realise I always wanted to get married and to have kids, but because my partner didn't, I began to believe I didn't either.
  • don't isolate yourself from your friends. It was my decision to move both times - first for my study and secondly for my job. My partner never intended to isolate me, but it happened anyway. If I had my girlfriends around me I would have been able to have more frank conversations and maybe realise what I was really thinking sooner.
  • parents die and it is awful. You think you are prepared for it, but you aren't.

If you've read this far, thanks for listening. I'm open to any advice / criticisms / thoughts / encouragement / shared experience etc.

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MidnightPatrol · 04/05/2025 21:44

I don’t think it’s uncommon for people to be on the fence about children, until they realise it’s their ‘last chance’.

I know of several woman in their 40s who are childless not by choice - but all who started late with trying to conceive. Most of these are in couples - who have been together for many years too.

I hope it all turns out well for you.

LobeliaBaggins · 04/05/2025 21:59

OP, did you know that there is a MNers without children forum? You might find support there from women in the same position.

I hope you find peace and a way forward.

Springadorable · 04/05/2025 22:08

This is a mess, but I hope you find a way forward.

TaupeMember · 04/05/2025 22:12

You sound a lovely person

Hope you find a way to get whatever you desire.

OhreallyOReilly · 04/05/2025 22:13

So good you’ve learnt all this. Don’t give up hope!

ShockedandStunnedRepeatedly · 04/05/2025 22:15

You’ll make a great mum if that’s what’s meant to happen. And if it doesn’t, you’ll be fine too, I’m sure. You sound wise.

january1244 · 06/05/2025 06:44

I’m so sorry about the loss of your mum. I lost my dad during lockdown, and I know how crazy it can make things.

I just wanted to say really that if you do want children, it’s likely not too late. You have your eggs frozen, but also you’re only 40 I think? I and many of my friends fell pregnant relatively easily at late thirties and earlyish forties. I was one of the younger in my antenatal class at 37 with my first - we went up to age 45. So keep positive. About 50% of women age 40-43 will get pregnant within a year of trying. I’m only reiterating this because I understand panic can set it. A couple of the new mums I met had also gone it alone with a sperm donor sperm, as they really wanted to be mums but hadn’t been on the right relationships.

Enjoy moving back to London! Hope you have lots of fun adventures

Changeissmall · 06/05/2025 18:10

Sorry about your parents.

You’ve done a lot of thinking but you’ve been cautious so far so what’s changed? Are you going to go it alone? What is the plan?

Sorry to be blunt but you still don’t seem to be moving forward. Just changing things again. You have money and some frozen eggs. What’s next?

It does seem as though you’re externalising your choices. You both wanted to be child free but then your terrible losses have been traumatic enough for you to question the meaning of life and you are rewriting history to make the decision his.

If you have a baby with your frozen eggs it must be your free choice and you need to accept it will be very difficult but it is what you have chosen - not anything to do with other people.

LaLaLeylandii · 06/05/2025 22:14

I’m trying to get myself into a better situation. My job is very insecure, in a sector that is experiencing massive funding cuts and many redundancies. I don’t have the security to become a single parent in this situation. The thought of doing so makes me actively suicidal - not an ideal situation to bring a child into the world. I would rather freeze another batch of eggs, work on myself, date, and try in the future when my life is in a better place.

I’m quite radically changing my situation - moving back to my home city, retraining, aiming for a more stable and well paid job. That’s quite a big move and something that wouldn’t be possible if I had a child now.

I am very aware that I was ambivalent about children for a long time so bear responsibility for that. I also have every right to be annoyed at my partner for shutting down the one conversation I ever tried to have, vulnerably, about changing that position. I don’t need strangers on the internet to tell me that was a mistake. I pay a therapist to do that! It was in the middle of the pandemic and like many people then, I felt isolated and frightened. I just wasn’t able to dump my partner of 13 years and try to find someone to sire my child at the time. Of course I wish I had, but I didn’t.

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ShockedandStunnedRepeatedly · 06/05/2025 22:24

life is a series of sliding doors. I believe there are many lives we could have lived. Having children changes your life and limits it (if you want to be heavily involved in their care… and you might feel diffeeently once you’ve had them in this respect - one cannot predict that). Not really advice from me just musings, and an understanding and agreement that it really isn’t that simple.

ShockedandStunnedRepeatedly · 06/05/2025 22:24

Sorry you’re feeling so fragile. It’s understandable. I hope the therapist is helping.

LobeliaBaggins · 06/05/2025 22:32

I think wobbles when parents pass are very common. Does not necessarily mean you want children? Just a thought
I could be wrong.

LaLaLeylandii · 07/05/2025 08:16

LobeliaBaggins · 06/05/2025 22:32

I think wobbles when parents pass are very common. Does not necessarily mean you want children? Just a thought
I could be wrong.

I think I realised I’ve settled for a much smaller life than I wanted largely through habit/ease, and not wanting my parents to see me radically upset the life they thought I was happy in. I’ve been dreadfully bored and unhappy for a long time. Some people try to fix that by having a child. I at least knew that was a bad idea. I do want a family, but I need to be happier and in a better place before I do that.

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LaLaLeylandii · 07/05/2025 08:19

january1244 · 06/05/2025 06:44

I’m so sorry about the loss of your mum. I lost my dad during lockdown, and I know how crazy it can make things.

I just wanted to say really that if you do want children, it’s likely not too late. You have your eggs frozen, but also you’re only 40 I think? I and many of my friends fell pregnant relatively easily at late thirties and earlyish forties. I was one of the younger in my antenatal class at 37 with my first - we went up to age 45. So keep positive. About 50% of women age 40-43 will get pregnant within a year of trying. I’m only reiterating this because I understand panic can set it. A couple of the new mums I met had also gone it alone with a sperm donor sperm, as they really wanted to be mums but hadn’t been on the right relationships.

Enjoy moving back to London! Hope you have lots of fun adventures

Thank you for this kind message. I’m so sorry about your Dad. During lockdown that must have been so hard

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Mulledjuice · 07/05/2025 08:28

I think it is totally normal for the death of a parent or other loved one to kick-start the desire to reproduce.

I'm glad you're getting therapy. I hope it's helping.

You will never know whether you would have been happier if you'd had children. There are so many what ifs. You could have left your partner ten years ago and still have not have the "family" you think you want now. Have a read of the relationships board on here to see plenty of examples of women unhappy in their families.

I hope you can embrace the freedom you have now, and whatever choices or changes come your way.

Btw - Did you freeze eggs or embryos? I'm incredibly surprised if you found somewhere that would freeze 41/42 year old unfertilised eggs.

LaLaLeylandii · 07/05/2025 13:16

Mulledjuice · 07/05/2025 08:28

I think it is totally normal for the death of a parent or other loved one to kick-start the desire to reproduce.

I'm glad you're getting therapy. I hope it's helping.

You will never know whether you would have been happier if you'd had children. There are so many what ifs. You could have left your partner ten years ago and still have not have the "family" you think you want now. Have a read of the relationships board on here to see plenty of examples of women unhappy in their families.

I hope you can embrace the freedom you have now, and whatever choices or changes come your way.

Btw - Did you freeze eggs or embryos? I'm incredibly surprised if you found somewhere that would freeze 41/42 year old unfertilised eggs.

Thanks for this. I had just turned 40 and my fertility was seen as good enough to freeze the eggs. I might do another round and freeze embryos in the summer. The clinic is in London around Harley Street.

I agree, I would rather be relatively happy and free without children than miserable with a partner and with them.

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