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If I go to NZ without our dog will ds ever forgive me?

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beansmum · 05/05/2008 20:26

He loves her, I joked today that we might send her to live with granny (because she had rolled in something disgusting and was stinky) and ds burst into tears, it took ages to settle him down. I'm moving to NZ in Jan and wasn't planning on taking the dog. Do you think ds will get over it or will he be miserable forever?

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SSSandy2 · 05/05/2008 20:30

He will get over it faster if he can have a dog over there. We moved a lot and we generally didn't take our pets with us as far as I can remember. Don't remember it having been traumatic for us at all

Lauriefairycake · 05/05/2008 20:30

is the dog going to grannies cos i think that will be the only way it will work - she can then get a webcam and he can check in on it. And you can say dogs aren't allowed on planes.

beansmum · 05/05/2008 20:36

The dog is going to my sister, so the webcam thing might work. Do you think we could bring her over once we are settled, probably wouldn't be for 2-3yrs. I will be studying full time until then and renting flats and moving about, or would that be harder on the dog and ds than simply saying goodbye? I don't like the idea of just replacing her.

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luckylady74 · 05/05/2008 20:44

How old is he?
I think you need to take a long time (months)building up to this if you do leave him behind - no dogs allowed on planes, safe with granny and so on - a web cam might prolong the agony.
I think getting him back will be pointless - he'll be a different boy by then.
Isn't NZ a really dog friendly place?
Good luck - my dd cries when we come home from nana's, but because of missing the dog not her nana!

Lauriefairycake · 05/05/2008 20:44

I wouldn't replace him as you won't be able to bring them back (if you're coming back) unless you leave them in quarantine for 6 months.

beansmum · 05/05/2008 20:51

I don't know what to do!! I can afford to fly her over, it's just the worry of finding a place to live that will let me have pets. Maybe my sister could look after the dog until we have a flat sorted, that would only be weeks or a month. ds isn't quite 4, I know he probably wont even remember, it's just a big move and I want it all to be easy for him.

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luckylady74 · 05/05/2008 23:42

I would fly him over - surely you can research places that will accept him? I think your ds will adjust far easier if he has his dog there too.

sandcastles · 06/05/2008 00:12

We had to leave our dog in the UK when we came to Oz. It was very hard on dh & dd, but it just wouldn't have worked out. Dd was beside herself for a few weeks, always asking for him & I'll admit it was heartbreaking. But she slowly releaised that he was better there [with dh's aunt] than here.

Here they need quarenteen for 6 months, and Adelaide Quarenteen couldn't guarentee him a place. So he could have ended up in Melbourne, Perth or even Queensland! Which would have meant 6 months in a strange place, without visits from us etc.

The flight was 24 hours [broken, obv] but we had a 14 hour stop over. Way too long, IMO for an animal to be 'locked up' in a small cage.

He needed an lot of immunisations.

We were quote over 3k to get him here.

Alot of rental places don't allow dogs & those that do have strict rules that they have to be kept outside. Our little dog would have gone mad & whined day & night after being inside in the UK. This can cause your landlord to end your tenancy, especially if it is disturbing neighbours.

We were also told by our UK vet that the extreme heat here can affect the dog as it won't be used to such high temps [we had 38+ for 3 weeks in summer]. Not sure how true THAT is, but a consideration?

It is actually easier going back to the UK. MIL's friend just did it with a year old puppy. They were able to quarenteen him at home with them here before leaving. He was sent to LHR [they arrived elsewhere] so they had to fetch him. But they could do that as soon as he cleared customs & spent 48 hours in quarenteen. So if you did buy new in NZ, it is easy to get them back to UK as rules going that way are more lenient.

paros · 06/05/2008 01:53

Just a thought I think your Ds will forgive you but I think the dog will be pretty pissed off . LOL I suppose you could always send him a post card .

ninedragons · 06/05/2008 04:25

How old is he? Old enough to understand that it is better for the dog to have a happy home in the UK than go through the process of moving to NZ?

We're re-homing our cat before we leave for Australia. My husband is gutted but accepts that if he's scared of the vacuum cleaner then 10 hours in the hold of a 747 next to the engines will be hell for him, and he'll hate the quarantine.

MrsJohnCusack · 06/05/2008 08:53

we rehomed our cats before we moved to NZ - just too complicated. however my sister brought her dog over to NZ and it was all fine (if pricey).

there is no quarantine now when you arrive in NZ. She used a company that handled everything for them (all the vet checks etc.). i do think it's slightly easier to bring a dog than a cat - ours would have HATED it.

however, if you really DON'T want to bring the dog, he will forgive you, and the webcam thing may well work. He is only 3, there's lots of drama but they do get over things and they do understand the whole webcam/people living abroad thing

wannaBe · 06/05/2008 09:11

I wouldn't put a dog through such a long flight tbh.

also, not sure re quarantine laws in nz but I know it used to be 9 months, with 6 months served here and three months over there. We brought two dogs home when we came back from South Africa and they spent six months in quarantine and I'll be totally honest - I would never do it again as it was horrible. Even though we were allowed to visit the dogs were miserable and both developed health problems while they were there.

beansmum · 06/05/2008 13:14

I'm not at all concerned about the dog coping with the flight, she would handle it better than me and ds, and there is no quarantine. I'm just a bit worried about finding somewhere to live. Also I don't drive and even getting her from the airport (Auckland) to the house(Dunedin probably) will be a bit of a problem. unless I learn to drive this summer. which I should probably do anyway.

Do you think she would be happy to see us again if my sister kept her for a year or two and then sent her over, or would that be really hard on her? My sister might move to NZ in a few years anyway, but she will be buying not renting and has a car and is a proper grown up.

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MrsJohnCusack · 06/05/2008 22:07

ooooh are you moving to Dunedin then?

how old is the dog? because the older she gets, the harder the journey will be. if my sis does return to the UK in a couple of years, she thinks they will rehoime the dog as she'll be too old for the journey this time. And whata kind of dog is she?

Heathcliffscathy · 06/05/2008 22:09

you have to take the dog. can you not take the dog?

what's 24 hours of discomfort compared to a lifetime without you?

please take the dog...

Heathcliffscathy · 06/05/2008 22:09

dunedin is fab btw

beansmum · 06/05/2008 22:47

I have a plan. I will go without the dog and find a flat and learn to drive, then my sister will bring her over when she comes to visit in her summer holiday, or at christmas at the latest. So 6-12 months without her. She'll be ok with that wont she? She's a staffie, a lovely one, and I don't really want to leave her now I have thought about it, but I can't take her straight away, I wont have anywhere to keep her. She is only 2.5, young enough to cope with the flight?

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windygalestoday · 06/05/2008 22:53

beansmum sometimes making the right moves means making the what seem like wrong choices im all for pets i too have dog who i love dearly but you cant hold your life around dog- either you take her with you which as you rightly suggest is quite unfesable or shes rehomed with your sister you cant chop nd chnge and expect your sister to be disrupted - new zealand is a wonderful opportunity and things change .....unless your dog is seriously unhappy at your sisters id see how it goes.

MrsJohnCusack · 07/05/2008 01:22

she is plenty young enough
honestly, my sister's dog is only a small mongrel jack russelly/terrier affair and she was fine (and quite a bit older than your dog). My next door neighbours here brought out really quite an old cat who coped fine. It really does just come down to how much YOU (and not your son) want to take her with you. (and whether your sister is prepared to help you out in this way)

as I said , they used a company who arranged everything and it did seem to make it a lot easier as there are lots of things to do re vets etc. which must be followed to the letter.

am excited about you going to Dunedin, how cool (am in ChCh myself, we need more S.Islanders)

talkingmongoose · 11/05/2008 11:18

I think NZ is on the pet passport scheme with uk, so no quarantine. Take the dog.

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