Myself and another car bumped who’s at fault?

[6Claire]

I was parked parallel to a large van, I had set of pulling out checked left was clear then was pulling out on an angle going right, all of a sudden small bang, my front passenger side bumper hit with a drivers side bumper she had come I think from other side of van and was heading my way! I believe she should have seen me as I was fully out and she should have had time to stop, it was gravel school car park so no lines etc. we both said there that neither of us felt we were at fault so I’m unsure what to do insurance wise as could be cheaper for us to fix our own car! What would you think? On pic if you see patch on gravel that was in front of my driver side when I was parked so it shows how much I’d already got out giving it was in line with my driver side back wheel and my back bumper lines up nearly with back bumper of van.

Not easy to tell from the photo but looks like you were pulling out as if to turn right and the other car was already on that stretch, so effectively it’s you turning on to the ‘road’?
if that’s the case then you are at fault as she was already on that pathway

I think a diagram of where you started from and where you were going might be helpful. Also which car were you? It will be tricky as doesnt look like there are any road markings at all. Probably end up being 50/50 when insurance gets involved.

As above, she has right of way if you were pulling out of a space.

I had set of pulling out checked left was clear then was pulling out on an angle going right, all of a sudden small bang, my front passenger side bumper hit with a drivers side bumper she had come I think from other side of van and was heading my way!

It sounds like you were at fault. The other car obviously pulled out of their space and onto the ‘road’ before you and it was on you to wait for the car to pass.

She wasn’t there as I was pulling out though I’d already checked left it was clear so in that time I was able to get nearly a full car out before she then did appear from that left direction. My argument is if she was on that path heading in my direction straight on and I was at that angle already how if looking forwards did she not see me and stop, she should have had time to stop I was going 5pm/less as it’s school car park! I feel she has come from around the van at speed and not concentrating or looking maybe other way distracted and clipped my front end as I was already out! Behind the van to the left is trees only a car would have fitted down the other side of the van so it’s not like it’s a road as such where she could have been driving along.

She wasn’t there as I was pulling out though I’d already checked left it was clear so in that time I was able to get nearly a full car out before she then did appear from that left direction. My argument is if she was on that path heading in my direction straight on and I was at that angle already how if looking forwards did she not see me and stop, she should have had time to stop I was going 5pm/less as it’s school car park! I feel she has come from around the van at speed and not concentrating or looking maybe other way distracted and clipped my front end as I was already out! Behind the van to the left is trees only a car would have fitted down the other side of the van so it’s not like it’s a road as such where she could have been driving along.

I am the Blue BMW I was parked here red square and had edged out all was clear I was turning right so after checking first it was clear I was then looking in my line of sight more right that’s angle I was driving as I was turning and she came out of nowhere and we clipped front ends. obviously she was looking and heading in my direction so I wonder how she didn’t see me to stop if I’d already got so far out!

It sounds impossible for there to have been no cars, and then for her to have come out of her space fully, pass the van and crash into
you all in the time it took for you to only get partially out of your space.

Cars never come out of nowhere it is physically impossible. When someone says a car came out of nowhere it just means they didn't see it. Dont rely on "she came out of nowhere" on your insurance claim.

You pulled out in front of her. Your fault.

I am also of the opinion it will come out your fault - you drove out into her right of way .

Obviously I didn’t mean nowhere but she was not pulling out from the other side of that van as I pulled out from the right side, as if I’d seen her and not continued to move forwards I don’t know she could have been parked opposite the van and pulled out from the opposite side into that direction we hit like I said I don’t know if she came from other side of van or opposite but I’d had enough time to move from stationary and edge out a full car length that my bumper was in line more or less with bumper of the van so if it was the case she was coming along when I stated if of gone into the side of her door rather than my car being more or less fully out and she came along and we clipped front ends! I’ve never had an accident so unsure how things go!

From the photo it looks like she was the other side of the van so to me it looks like you would be at fault as she was already in the space and then you pulled into her , she is already on the bit of road that you are pulling into .

Also technically there’s no road markings or signs so what gives her a right of way over me? It’s just an open gravel car park, sort of park where you want?

She was there though you just didn't see her until it was too late. I think the absolute best you can hope for is 50/50.

Thats why you might get 50/50.

Well it happened that quick my car sensors and warnings didn’t even get time to go off and it was just instant! I was going very slow I’d say creeping out 5mph so surely if she was there already and I approached her at this slow pace the bleeper sounds would have gone off as I got closer to her before impact!

No, you can’t assume because your car didn’t beep that there was no hazard around. That excuse is not going to stand.

Goodness don't put that in your insurance claim either!

Not sure OP is going to agree with any posters that say it is her fault ...

Not an excuse just trying to piece all the bits together on how the heck it happened because in that moment it was all a bit hectic and panic. And I do believe she was not there on my left at that moment when I pulled out and managed to get a full car length out and obviously then when it happened I questioned everything! Still sat thinking she was approaching my car that was already out on that angle how she hasn’t seen me to stop she would have been looking directly at me? Was she not looking, was she distracted? I don’t know then I suppose it will go on the pictures and her word against mine! And who has right of way in an area with no markings etc if I’m found at fault then that’s what will be! Just wanted any opinions as like I said not been in this situation before

“my front passenger side bumper hit with a drivers side bumper”

For what you described to of happened you either pulled out and hit her or you pulled out and she hit you but whichever way it happened from everything you’ve wrote it sounds like you are the one at fault

Hmmm. She had priority as you pulled into her established path (if I've understood correctly. Diagram would be far more helpful here tbh) there is a slight argument that she takes 50% because she could have stopped to avoid the impact at that speed and the angle you're at. Sounds like she's thought she has right of way (which we all know doesn't exist) and carried on. she had enough time to stop due to the speed you pulled out.

Looking at the pictures you've both been driving with your eyes fucking closed.

If she was there as I pulled forwards I’d of gone straight into her driver side door put it that way

P.s used to work in claims. Most car park prangs are 50/50.