Should social services be monitoring parents that take children to riots and protests

[Daltonbear1]

Having watched the riots for the the last week. I have been absolutely flabbergasted. By how many people thought is acceptable to take children to them.
There was a lady in Rotherham that had a toddler and other people have had children either cry Or making them swear surely if prevent strategy. Is all about stopping terrorism, because if these were Islamic children and they were on a riot, they would have issues too. So why are we not Suggesting that social services should be doing the same for these children?
These riots have political motives aka terrorism especially bringing kids to that hotel that got burnt to
Do you agree disagree?

I think that social services is already overstretched and probably needs to focus on kids at risk of physical and sexual abuse.

A bit dangerous to start removing kids because we don't like the ideology that their parents are teaching, although it is vile

A bit dangerous to start removing kids because we don't like the ideology that their parents are teaching, although it is vile

No one is suggesting removing kids because of their parents ideology. OP is suggesting, quite rightly, removing kids from parents who think taking their children to participate in riots is a good idea.

Ok while I agree isn't it a danger putting your kids in danger and as prevent was meant for teachers etc to report terrorism thoughts that kids have surely affiliated Say with edl type stuff would be similar

Absolutely they should, anyone who thinks it's OK to skip down the street, smiling whilst holding hands with their pre teen daughter who is shouting p*kis out isn't fit to parent.

Racists breed racists - those poor kids have no hope if those views and behaviour is normalised

In an ideal world yes but they will be too overstretched to worry about potential future problems because they are dealing with current problems.

Being around violence and racism is obviously damaging and ideally would be treated under PREVENT.

I can see that but surely these parents will be identified teachers etc need a bloody word cos God knows what the kids are gonna be like at school to maybe fellow minority kids

Definitely, they are willingly and knowingly putting their children in danger and exposing them to potential violence. Children have to really on their trusted adults to keep them safe.

Why do you think they won’t? When the police arrest the parents they will refer to social services. I imagine a lot of them are already known tbh

In an ideal world, yes they should be removed but the outcomes for most kids in foster care are pretty poor and social services are already extremely overstretched.

I saw that! I think she is younger than a pre teen! However, they are over stretched and other than a few words and maybe some diversity courses the wouldn't get involved. This just doesn't meet the threshold. But it's disgusting. Feel sorry for the kids.

No child should be present at a riot. Sone protests are absolutely fine to take children to. I take my son to the yearly anti racism protest in London. Thousands and thousands go, it's always very peaceful. There's a protest (not related to the recent riots) this weekend that has been scheduled for months near where I live. Usually we'd go but I shan't be due to the current climate.

Peaceful protest fine of course but these were never gonna be peaceful at all

If parents are taking their children to riots where people are hurling racist abuse, threatening people, looking for people to beat up, setting fire to things and so on then fuck yes social services needs to be involved.

Of course they should and I'm sure they will. These people clearly are not fit parents and I'm sure that the relevant authorities will follow up appropriately.

Anyone taking their children to a riot is clearly not worthy of being a parent.

Peaceful protests? Fine! I took Dd to the massive Brexit protest and it was a good, safe day. I’d very much expect someone to report me to social services if I took her to the riots planned for my city tonight.

Morons the lot of them.

Social Services here are paying attention. Problems with taking kids away from parents, even though it's probably warranted, would probably inflame situation more, a la Harehills, and it's been noticed locally that some looked after children are those involved in the riots. Foster care is thin on the ground and placing possibly violent children is hard.

In an ideal world yes but they’re over stretched dealing with more serious cases unfortunately

How do you know they're not?

Prevent & Channel Panel does include all types of extremism.

There are many levels of social care intervention prior to removing children. The threshold to immediately remove a child from their family is, rightly, extremely high.

Many families are known to these services due to concerns about the impact of criminal and antisocial behaviours.

A lot of these issues are the result of chronic long term cuts to universal services, early intervention, and youth services.

Also - "Islamic children"?!

How about people who drop children out of the window?

oh, no, they might make a fuss…..

Yes.

Taking children with you whilst you commit violence and break the law should of course mean that social services get involved.

But

Taking your child with you to a peaceful protest or demonstration is completely different however. This teaches them about democracy and civil rights.

This would obviously have nothing to do with social services.

Always one isn’t there of course they should have been and nope that situation shouldn’t have escalated. No one is suggesting that harehills should have escalated and I believe the children now live with a family but not the same one. There is nuance in life we are not on football teams we don’t have to sit on one side all the time

I meant Muslim children but I actually wanted the word which had escaped my mind blame brain fog Islamist as they are not really Muslim as they are vry extreme